Well, if it is any comfort Cindy, thousands of veterans were mislead as far as the Post 9/11 GI Bill. From before its fielding, to even a considerable amount of time after the Post 9/1 GI Bill came into existence, there were numerous untrue rumors and generally a lack of creditable information on what could and could not be done with the New GI Bill. We are still fighting untruths even today, almost three years later. My point is I don’t think he would have known much more a few weeks after August 1, 2009 than he did when he retired before that date. Good information was just not there at the time.
With your husband’s active duty time and 36 months of activations as a reservist, then yes, he is eligible for 36 months of Post 9/11 GI Bill education benefits. To enroll as a GI Bill student, he will need a Certificate of Eligibility. He can get that by submitting VA Form 22-1990 from the eBenefits website.
However, because he’s retired, regardless if it was before or after August 1, 2009, he is not eligible to make a transfer of benefits to his dependent children. The way Congress wrote the Post 9/11 GI Bill rules, he would have to be serving “on or after August 1, 2009” in order to make a transfer request.
I have started a petition that if approved would provide for a one-time transfer of benefits opportunity. You can read it and then decide if you and your husband would like to support it or not.
Let me start with addressing the transfer of your husband’s GI Bill benefit to you Krystal. Regardless if he has the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) or the Post 9/11 GI Bill, he can’t transfer benefits to you, but each for different reasons. The MGIB does not have, and never had, a transfer-of-benefits option. With the Post 9/11 GI Bill, your husband would have to still be serving in order to make a transfer request.
He served for seven years, meeting the service requirement of at least six years, but he would also need to have at least four years left on his enlistment at the time of the transfer request. The way Congress wrote the Post 9/11 GI Bill rules, the servicemember has to be serving “on or after August 1, 2009,” along with meeting the current and future service requirements, to get a transfer request approved.
As far as the Hazelwood Act, you are correct in saying you are not eligible for this benefit. And be glad you are not. If you were eligible, it would mean your husband was either killed in action or totally disabled as a result from service-connected injuries or illness.
Other options? Yes, you do have some. First, fill out the FAFSA (Free Application for Federal Student Aid) to see how much you qualify for as far as educational benefits. Then pursue loans, scholarships and grants. The latter two don’t have to be paid back, so I would focus my efforts on them. There is money out there, you just have to dig to find it.
According to the rules, she can’t use her transferred Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits unless she has turned 18 or graduated from high school, so if she will be under 18 at graduation, I would have her submit VA Form 22-1990e as soon as she has her diploma in hand. If she will turn 18 before graduation, then submit it on her birthday. It can take 8 to 10 weeks to process so if she will start school in late August or early September, she should get it in plenty of time to register.
The VA will pay her tuition and eligible fees up to the resident rate, which for WSU is showing as $10,798. If she is a non-resident, that amount jumps to $22,076.
Monthly, she will get a housing allowance payment from the VA either deposited into her bank account or by check, depending on which option she chooses on her 22-1990e. Out of that housing allowance, she will have to pay her room and board.
Her housing allowance is calculated based on the zip code of her school and the number of credits she takes. If she takes is going full-time, then she would get $1,074 per month or $9,666 for a nine-month academic year. The school’s website shows room and board at $9,662 per year, so her Post 9/11 GI Bill housing allowance should cover her room and board in full.
She will also get a book stipend at the beginning of each semester. It is paid at the rate of $41.67 per credit (up to the $1,000 yearly maximum). For twelve credits that amounts to $500. WSU’s website is showing a yearly estimated book cost of $936, so it should cover her books.
Actually Jerry, your son can mix and match how he uses his transferred Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits and merit scholarships, but generally to maximize his GI Bill benefits, he will want to avoid using both the GI Bill and scholarships in the same semester. He could use most of his GI Bill benefits all at once over the year of school, or use it one semester at a time spread out over time. The thing to keep in mind is your son’s transferred benefits are only good up to age 26. Any unused benefits left after that age are lost, unless you revoke them back before he hits age 26.
As you may or may not know, the VA pays tuition up to $17,500 per year if your son attends a private school or 100% of resident tuition if your son goes to a public school in his home state.
When your son decides to use his Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits, choosing a private school that has the Yellow Ribbon Program is a good move. With a $30,000 tuition and the VA paying up to $17,500 per year, his school could pay up to 50% of the $12,500 difference with the VA paying an equal amount. This would potentially leave nothing left for your son to pay. He will have to check with his school to see what percentage they are actually paying as listed in their Yellow Ribbon agreement with the VA.
If he does choose a private school not enrolled in the Yellow Ribbon program, then he could use both his scholarship and his GI Bill, but the VA would then only pay the $15,000 difference between his tuition and merit scholarship, instead of the $17,500.
No Kevin, the clock on your Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) benefits doesn’t start until you get out of the Reserves. As far as rolling your MGIB over to the Post 9/11 GI Bill, the advantage is the higher pay structure of the New GI Bill, but with only one year of Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility – the year you were recalled – you would only have a 60% benefit.
Under the MGIB, you would get $1,473 per month to go to school full-time and you have to pay all your own education expenses. Under the Post 9/11 GI Bill, the VA would pay up to 60% of your tuition and eligible fees and you would get 60% of the housing allowance and book stipend.
As you know, your housing allowance amount is determined by the location of your school and the number of credits you are taking, along with your eligibility percentage. So if your school considers 12 credits to be full-time and you are taking 9 credits, with your 60% eligibility, you would get 60% of 9/12th of the full amount. For example if the full housing amount is $1,400, your 9/12ths of that amount would $1,050. Sixty percent of $1,050 is $650. You will have to work the numbers both ways for your particular situation to see which one would be the best for you, but at 60% eligibility, most likely the MGIB would be your best bet.
If you have at least four years left on your enlistment, you can make a transfer request to your son. Just know he will inherit that same eligibility percentage. Of course, one way to up that percentage is to go on another one-year deployment or two before making a transfer to him. With him being only two years old, you have time on your side.
By obligation, I’m assuming you mean your officer training obligation, because officers don’t have an enlistment obligation, like enlisted soldiers. On your Military ID Card, it has Indefinite for an enlistment ending date.
So assuming I’m correct, in five years you will have served a combined total of 12 years in the military – seven active and five in the Reserve Component. Even if your obligation time did not count, you would still have well over the required six years of service time needed to make a transfer request. So when your son is ready to start school, you will have met the service requirements at that time.
Just note, you will have to serve an additional four years in the National Guard for your son to use his transferred benefits. The caution is if you don’t serve that additional four years, then his unused Post 9/11 GI Bill transferred benefits will be null and void.
If you were to make a transfer today, you would go to the TEB website and enter into your son’s record how many months you wish to transfer. Keep checking back and look for the status to change from “Pending Review” to “Approved”. Once that happens, then have him go to the eBenefits website and fill out VA Form 22-1990e. In return, he will get back his Certificate of Entitlement showing how many months of benefits he has left.
I have no way of knowing what the process will be in five years, but it will most likely be similar to what it is today.
Hi Isaias. Yes, according to the Post 9/11 GI Bill rules, he has to be either 18 or have his high school diploma in hand if he is less than 18 at the time of graduation. With 36 months of eligibility and 8 month semesters, yes indeed he is covered for 4 ½ academic years of school.
As hard as it is to believe, yes, he can attend a private school and the VA will pay up to $17,500 per year in tuition and eligible fees. His housing allowance would be based on the zip code of his school and by how many credits he takes. To be eligible for the minimum housing allowance, he needs to take at least 51% of the number of credits his school considers to be full-time. Of course taking a full load will get him 100% of the authorized housing allowance authorized for that zip code. And it gets better. He will also get a book stipend once each semester calculated at $41.67 per credit.
If his tuition will exceed what his GI Bill transferred benefits will pay, or if he ends up paying out-state tuition, he should ask if his school is a Yellow Ribbon school. If so, then his school could pay up to half the difference between what they charge and what the VA pays. The VA would pay an equal amount leaving very little left for him to pay.
As far as majors and minors, the VA will pay for them, but they must be related. For example, The VA would most likely pay for a major in Business and a minor in Accounting as they are related. Keep in mind the VA will only pay for the necessary courses needed to complete each degree plan will not pay for courses outside the degree plan.
It depends on how many months of Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits you gave her when you made your initial transfer request. Entitlement use is based on a 30-day month, so if she is going to school full-time, she would use one month of entitlement for each month in school. If she is on 4-month semesters, 3 semesters would calculate out to 12 months of entitlement use. I would recommend looking at her Certificate of Eligibility (CoE) to see how many months she originally had.
The only thing I can think of that could speed up her use of benefits is if she is taking an aviation program or a high-cost technology accelerated course. Those types of training use up benefits at a faster rate than other courses.
If you did not transfer all of your benefits to her, then go back in and make another transfer request. You can give any or all of your unused Post 9/11 GI Bill months of entitlement.
The other thing that could come into play is if you had used some of your Montgomery GI Bill entitlement and then switched over to the Post 9/11 GI Bill, you would have only received the same number of months you had left under the MGIB and not a full 36 months. So while you might have requested to transfer 36 months, the VA would have only transferred the number of unused months you had left. If her CoE shows she had 36 months, then I would contact the VA and ask why her use is accelerated.
That sucks doesn’t it Billy. Thousands of veterans were caught in this quagmire and nobody on Capital Hill seems to be in any hurry to fix this last remaining Post 9/11 GI Bill wrong against veterans. Over the past couple of years, two different pieces of legislation have been drafted that would have allowed qualified veterans a one-time opportunity to make a transfer request. However not only did neither piece of legislation pass, they never even made it to a vote.
In the drafted legislation, they were going to push the transfer of benefits eligibility back to 10 December 2001 and it would run up to 31 July 2009. They could not go any further back because it takes a minimum of 90 days of service to become eligible for the Post 9/11 GI Bill; the 10 December date is 90 days from the original GI Bill eligibility date of 10 September 2001. The only bright light in the sky is a new petition that was started to fix the very thing you are talking about.
I don’t envision anything else on the horizon that would change on this issue unless someone lights a fire under their Legislator’s butt and it gets hot enough to spur some legislation. The only way that could happen would be for the veterans to unite under a common cause and sign/support the petition. I’ve been doing this for some time now and I have not seen that solidarity yet. Hopefully this can be the vehicle to make that happen. With enough support, maybe we can make this happen together.