Posts Tagged ‘qualifying for the GI Bill’

September 6th, 2011
by Ron Kness
First, off thank you for the information you provide. I received a certificate of eligibility from the VA stating I was eligible for the Post 9/11 GI Bill. My issue is that I was discharged with a General Discharge. I have been previously informed that if you complete at least one honorable enlistment you are automatically qualified, which i did. Did the VA make an error in giving me benefits or am I entitled to benefits? Can the VA take away my benefits? – Manuel

No Manuel, the VA did not make a mistake as long as you have one qualifying period of service ending in an Honorable Discharge, which you said you did, for the time period qualifying you for the Post 9/11 GI Bill – after September 10, 2001.

The VA can’t take away your benefits, but they can prevent you from using them. For example, if you only had the one General Discharge, then you could not use your GI Bill education benefits, however, you still have them – they did not go anywhere, nor did anyone take them from you.

Now let’s say you wanted to apply to have your General Discharge upgraded to Honorable. You do so by submitting DD Form 293 to the Discharge Review Board of your military branch for approval. Note, it can take up to a year to hear back and there is not a guarantee they will upgrade it. I wanted to make that clear because of a rumor going around that after six months, a discharge is automatically upgraded – that is not true.

In our example, now that your General Discharge had been changed to Honorable, you would be able to use the education benefits that were on hold when you still have a General. Make sense?

But, because you have one period of service ending in an Honorable Discharge already, you are fine and will be able to use your benefits.

September 2nd, 2011
by Ron Kness
I enlisted in the Army in 2003 signing up for the SLRP. I was honorably discharged I 2008 after 5 years. I ended up not using any money or benefits under the SLRP, but the VA is saying I have only 2 years of accredited service for the post 911 GI Bill with 3 years obligated to the SLRP. Is this correct even though I used zero benefits from SLRP? – Scott

That is correct Scott. When you signed up for the Student Loan Repayment Program (SLRP), you incurred a three-year obligation. Whether you used the program or not is immaterial, it still cost you three years of eligibility you could have had for the Post 9/11 GI Bill.

The reason why you only have two years of Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility is you can’t use the same period of service for both SLRP and the GI Bill, hence that is why they credited you with only two years of Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility.

The one thing that is puzzling to me is why would you sign up for SLRP in the first place, if you didn’t already have existing student loans at the time you enlisted? SLRP serves no other purpose than to pay off student loans you had prior to enlisting. I’m thinking you did not fully understand the program or didn’t know the effect it would have on your Post 9/11 GI Bill.

So with two years of Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility, you are at the 80% tier where otherwise, without having signed up for SLRP, you would have been at the 100% level.

It is unfortunate that we sometimes have to learn lessons the hard way, but hopefully other readers can learn from this and fully investigate program they don’t understand before signing up for them.

August 31st, 2011
by Ron Kness
My question is do I qualify for any educational benefits with 5 years of service and a General Under Honorable discharge? I was told while still in that I did not but I’ve heard of service members with less time in that have had it. What are the requirements? — Vidal

Vidal, the issue is not how much time you served, it is your General Under Honorable Conditions discharge that is preventing you from using your GI Bill education benefits. Anything less than a fully Honorable and you can’t use them. Notice, I said can’t – you still have your GI Bill benefits.

If you think you were wronged by your discharge and you want to try and upgrade it to Honorable, submit DD293 to your service branch’s Discharge Review Board. An upgrade is not guaranteed and it can take up to a year to get a decision, but it is an appeal avenue if you can support your case.

If you have been discharged for more than 15 years, then submit DD Form 149 to the Board of Corrections of Military Records of your service branch.

Your five years of service was more than enough time for you to fully qualify for either the Montgomery GI Bill (provided you signed up and paid your $1,200 contribution) or Post 9/11 GI Bill. All that is required is three years of service. So that is why your buddies qualified with less time and you didn’t  – they had an Honorable discharge.

August 29th, 2011
by Ron Kness
Are Air National Guard service members entitled to post 9/11 GI Bill? I’ve been having a hard time finding answers to what Guard members are/are not entitled too. Is Post 9/11 reserved for those who served active duty? From my understand, Guard is under the Montgomery GI Bill, not Post 9/11. I’m still serving in the Guard as a traditional and want to know what resources I have available to be to use on flight training. The changes to the post 9/11 bill coming in October 2011 give more to you for flight training. Am I eligible for these? — Scott

National Guard members can be eligible for the Post 9/11 GI Bill Scott, but the rules are slightly different than their active duty brethren, so it can be confusing. For Selected Reserve (SELRES) members (National Guard and Reserve) you have to have served for at least 90 days on a Title 10 order in support of a contingency operation after September 10, 2001 to qualify for the Post 9/11 GI Bill. A typical one-year deployment would put you at the 60% tier. If you have multiple deployments adding up to three years of Title 10 time, you can attain the 100% tier.

The biggest difference is when it comes to qualifying for the transfer of benefits option. For the active duty folks, they have be at the 100% tier before they can use the transfer option. For the SELRES, they can transfer at a percentage less than 100%. In both cases, members must have served for at least six years and agree to serve an additional four years.

As far as the Montgomery GI Bill, there are two of them – one for active duty, the Montgomery GI Bill-AD (MGIB-AD) and another one for the SELRES, the  Montgomery GI Bill – SR (MGIB-SR).

The MGIB-SR doesn’t pay much though ($339 per month and you have to pay all your own education expenses). Also, your MGIB-SR benefits expire once you separate from the Reserve Component or 10 years from your Notice of Benefits Eligibility (NOBE) date. Whether you are eligible for the GI Bill 2.0 flight training changes will depend on if you have established Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility or not.

August 26th, 2011
by Ron Kness
Afternoon, Experts. I was recently discharged from the Army after serving from 07/2004-10/2010. I received a BCD as my final discharge, but I re-enlisted during my first tour in Iraq. Would that qualify me to receive Education benefits (Post 9/11 GI Bill) because I do in fact have an honorable discharge from my re-enlistment? Thanks for any info you can provide. – Christian

Yes Christan, it would. I’m assuming you had served at least a three-year enlistment when you re-enlisted. With at least three years after September 10, 2001 ending in an Honorable discharge, you would have 36 months of Post 9/11 GI Bill at the 100% benefit rate to use to further your education.

On the DD 214 that you received when you got out, it should show Honorable as the type of discharge from your first enlistment.  Because that enlistment was within the qualifying period, that locked in your Post 9/11 GI Bill education benefits. Just submit VA Form 22-1990 from the eBenefits website to get your Certificate of Eligibility that you will need when enrolling in school.

Should you decide to try and get your BCD upgraded to Honorable, you can submit DD Form 293 to the Army Discharge Review Board. There are not any guarantees they will upgrade it and it can take up to a year for a decision, but at least it is an avenue of appeal. This Board handles cases for those getting out within the last 15 years. If it will be longer than that when you apply, then you would use DD Form 149 and submit it to the Board of Corrections to Military Records.

July 4th, 2011
by Ron Kness
I was honorably discharged in 2004 and I want to know where do I go to find out if I’m still eligible for the GI Bill. – Richard

You didn’t mention which GI Bill you had Richard, but because you were discharged 5 years before the Post 9/11 GI Bill started, I’m assuming you are talking about the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB). The MGIB has a 10-year delimitation date, so it will expire on your discharge anniversary date in 2014, meaning you still have about 3 years to use your education benefits before they are gone.

Whether you know it or not, you are also eligible for the Post 9/11 GI Bill. As I said earlier, that GI Bill started in 2009, but the eligibility date goes back to September 10, 2001. Because you are eligible for two or more GI Bills, under the Rule of 48 you could get a maximum of 48 months of entitlement.

Most likely you still have 36 months of MGIB benefits, so you could either switch to the Post 9/11 GI Bill now and use your 36 months under that GI Bill or you could use up your 36 months under the MGIB, then switch to the Post 9/11 GI Bill to get an additional 12 months of education benefit.

If you switch to the Post 9/11 GI Bill with all 36 months of MGIB benefits intact, then you would get your $1,200 MGIB contribution back once you used up your Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits. If you use up all your MGIB and then swtich, you don’t get any of your contribution back. So whether you want the additional 12 months of benefits or your $1,200 back, at least you have a couple of choices.

June 3rd, 2011
by Ron Kness
My husband was in USMCR for 4 years (2006-2010) prior to becoming commissioned and taking an active duty contract with the Marine Corp. While in the Reserves, he collected on the MGIB for Reservist during all 8 semesters he was in college to obtain his degree. Now that he is with the Marine Corp as an active duty servicemember, they had him fill out paperwork to enroll in the GI Bill where he is paying 100 dollars a month for 12 months to the program. However, we are confused. We thought because he collected on the GI Bill for 36 months while in the Reserves, he would not be entitled to collect on any GI Bill again. Is this not true, esp. now that he is paying into the active duty program? Or is he only paying into something he cannot collect on? When we realized this might be the case, he questioned admin to reverse the paperwork and opt out of contributing but they said it was impossible. They told us he only had one chance to do so but he signed and selected to contribute and its irreversible, a one-time thing. Can you please clarify his options for the future? We have no problem contributing if we have access for him to use it or pass it on to a dependent in the future. However if we cannot use it, we would like to know if there is a way to get back the money he has put in. Thank you for your time we hope you can shed some light on the subject. — Shannon

Well Shannon, I think your husband was somewhat shanghai’d by someone not knowing how the GI Bill program works. Under the Rule of 48, if a servicemember is eligible for two or more GI Bills, the total combined number of months can’t exceed 48.

As you said, your husband used his Montgomery GI Bill – Selected Reserves to get his degree, and in doing so used up his 36 months under that program. So that means he can still get an additional 12 months of GI Bill entitlement, which would bring him to his 48 months maximum. So far – so good.

The issue is your husband will be eligible for his remaining 12 months under the Post 9/11 GI Bill just by serving on active duty after September 10, 2001 and that GI Bill program is free – no monetary contribution required. He would not have needed to sign up for the Montgomery GI Bill – Active Duty (MGIB-AD) and pay out $1,200 over a one-year period to get those extra months.

So once he is done paying his contribution and is eligible to use his GI Bill, he will have 12 months of the Montgomery GI Bill which he can convert to the Post 9/11 GI Bill and transfer to his dependents, so all is not lost. It is just he will end up with the same thing whether he had signed up for the MGIB-AD or not. He basically will have paid $1,200 for 12 months of entitlement instead of getting the normal 36 months of benefits for his $1,200.

Just so you know, once he or his dependents have used up his 12 months of Post 9/11 GI Bill, he can get a portion of his MGIB contribution back.  And as far as I know, there isn’t a way to stop the contribution once it starts.

May 25th, 2011
by Ron Kness
Hi, I was just wondering if I’m still qualified to use my GI Bill? I was active duty from 1994-1998, stayed in the reserves and was reactivated Oct 2001 due to Sept 11. Was released March of 2003. Before I was reactivated, I was using my GI Bill at Trinity Baptist College in Jacksonville, FL. Did not go back to college but am now looking into “finally” finishing up my schooling. Would love to know before I get too involved in searching out local colleges. Thank you. – Kristi

Kristi, I have good news. The GI Bill you had from your service ending in 1998 – The Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) had a 10-year expiration date, meaning it expired in 2008.

The good news is with your activation from Oct. 2001 to March 2003, you would qualify for the Post 9/11 GI Bill and it reset your delimitation date for your old GI Bill. Your old GI Bill would now expire in 2013.

With 17 months of qualifying Post 9/11 GI Bill service, you would be at the 50% tier level and you would have 36 months minus the number of months you used when you attended school under the MGIB.

With the Post 9/11 GI Bill, the VA would pay 50% of your tuition and fees directly to your school. You would get 50% of the book stipend and 50% of the monthly housing allowance provided you are not taking all online courses and take at least the number of credits your school considers for a student to be classified as greater-than-half-time. Starting later this year, full-time online-only students can get up to $673.50 in a monthly housing allowance.

May 24th, 2011
by Ron Kness
I am an AF Reservist, eligible to retire in March 2013 (20 yrs service). I applied for transfer of benefits to my dependents in March 2011 and am confused on whether or not I will incur an additional commitment. Do I owe 4 more years from now (which will take me to 22 yrs), or can I still retire in March 2013 and receive those benefits? – Steve

One of the quickest ways Steve to tell if your Post 9/11 GI Bill transfer of entitlement was approved is to go back to the TEB website and look for the “Approved” status in the Status Block. Once that happens, which can take up to 8 to 10 weeks, then your dependents each can go to the eBenefits website and submit VA Form 22-1990e to get their Certificate of Enrollment that they need when enrolling in school.

Generally speaking , if you are less than four years from retiring, as you are, then you do not have to extend for four years, but you may for a lesser amount unless your current enlistment takes you out to your 20-year retirement eligible mark. If your transfer request(s) were approved, then you should be good-to-go and be able to retire in March 2013.

April 20th, 2011
by Ron Kness
Hello. Upon entering the military, how soon can a servicemember start to use the education benefits? Am I being unrealistic in believing that once a candidate finishes basic training and AIT (or whatever the MOS training is called now) they can immediately start college with the government paying for it? Thanks for the response. — Wanda

It depends on which education benefit you are talking about Wanda. Once back from IADT (Individual Active Duty Training, which includes both Basic Training and AIT), the servicemember is authorized to start using Tuition Assistance (TA). TA pays up to $250 per credit with a $4,500 yearly cap.

If  the servicemember opted for the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) and has served at least two years on active duty, s/he can use the Tuition Top-Up program if the tuition rate exceeds $250 or the servicemember reaches his/her cap early in the academic year. The additional amount is converted to months and days of entitlement and deducted from the MGIB months of eligibility left.

If you are talking about the Post 9/11 GI Bill, then the servicemember can start using those GI Bill benefits once the minimum eligibility period of 90 days has passed. Keep in mind training time does not count, so that would be 90 days after returning from IADT. However, at that point, the individual would only be at the 40% tier, so my advice would be to use TA and wait for the 36 months eligibility period to pass to get 100% of the benefit.