I can’t speak for all of the GI Bill benefits, because they are not my specialty, but as far education, he will not be able to use his 36 months of entitlement. But, the good news (if there is any) is he did not lose his benefits – he still has them, but can’t use them.
So, the next step he should consider is does he have enough justification to support a discharge upgrade request. The Board will automatically consider his discharge correct, so his job is to convince the Board it is not correct and provide evidence to support his upgrade request.
That is usually best left to a lawyer experienced in military discharge upgrade proceedings. If he wants to pursue an upgrade request, he has to start by submitting DD Form 293 to the Navy Discharge Review Board.
Just as a warning, it can take up to a year to hear back and there isn’t a guarantee that it will be upgraded, but it is the only avenue of appeal he has. Plus if he hires a lawyer to represent him, he will have to pay for that expense also, whether his upgrade is approved of not. I don’t want to discourage him, but for Army soldiers, only 41% of the requests are approved. I don’t have statistics for Navy personnel, but I don’t imagine they are much different.
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Yes Michael, if you lose your service-connected disability rating, your Post 9/11 GI Bill percentage will drop dramatically. With only 1 ½ years of service, you would most likely drop down to 50%, as the months you were in training do not count toward Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility until after you have 24 months of eligibility.
If I were you, I wouldn’t be in any big hurry to get my VA rating changed until I had some assurance that I could actually qualify to enlist into the National Guard. While it is a good way to continue your military service, will you be fit enough if you have to deploy? Those not eligible to deploy aren’t of as much value in today’s Guard. Weigh your options carefully and know what RE code you would get if your VA rating changes and if it would be one that would allow you to serve in the Guard
If one of your goals of serving in the NG is the education benefits, just be aware that the Montgomery GI Bill-Selected Reserve (MGIB-SR) only pays $335 per month to go to school, and you would have to give up your Post 9/11 GI Bill. Most likely you would be better off staying with 50% of the Post 9/11 GI Bill.
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You get to keep your Post 9/11 GI Bill, even though you will have an OTH Ryan, you just won’t be able to use your education benefits. For that you have to have a fully Honorable discharge.
You ask if there is a waiting period or form you have to fill out to get your OTH upgraded to Honorable. Since you asked about a waiting period, I’m assuming you heard the rumor about your discharge would be automatically upgraded in six months – there is no such thing as an automatic upgrade regardless of how much time you wait.
But, there is a form to fill out to request a discharge upgrade – the DD Form 293. Fill out that form and submit it to your branch of service Discharge Review Board. It can take up to a year to hear back with a decision and there are no guarantees they will upgrade your discharge, but it is the only recourse you have. If the Board denies your upgrade request, you can take it one level higher to the Board of Military Corrections for your service branch. That requires submitting DD Form 149 and it is the end of the road. If they decline your request, you are stuck with your OTH.
Keep in mind with a request, you have to prove why your current discharge is wrong and should be upgraded. According to statistics for those that were in the Army, only 41% are granted an upgrade. I don’t have stats on the other branches, but they should be similar.
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Your discharge might be considered a medical discharge Corey, but that alone does not guarantee you will get the Post 9/11 GI Bill. The Medical and Physical Evaluation Board could rule your condition was pre-existing and that would not qualify you for the GI Bill. Or they could rule that your condition was caused by your service or that it was pre-existing, but aggravated by serving.
In the latter case (caused or aggravated), if they rule it is service-connected, then you would get the full 36 months of Post 9/1l GI Bill at 100% eligibility. I would think a Chapter 5-17 would not be considered service-connected, but that is for the medical and physical evaluation board to determine.
With 20 months of service and non service-connected, you most likely would get around 16 months of the Post 9/11 GI Bill. That is assuming you had four months of Basic Training and AIT ,which do not count toward Post 9/11 GI bill eligibility until after you have 24 months of service; then that time does count. Sixteen months would put you at the 60% tier for Post 9/11 GI Bill purposes.
It is possible the VA will rate your disability differently than your service branch, which could change things too.
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If you are credited with 29 months and 29 days of active duty credit Craig, then you will be off by one day to get to the 90% Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility tier as the military and VA both use 30 days as a month.
As far as using your entitlement as a full-time student, you are charged a full day of entitlement for each day of school. However, if you are a part-time student, you are only charged part of a day for each day in school. For example, if your school considers 12 credits as full-time and you are taking 7 credits, you would be charged 7/12 ths of a month for each month in school or about 17.5 days, instead of 30 days.
Because you did not fulfill your entitlement contract, most likely you will only get a day for day in Post 9/11 GI Bill entitlement, meaning you most likely will get about 899 days at the 80% Post 9/11 GI Bill tier rate.
Because you have over 24 months of service, be sure all your training time was counted. I would go back through everything and see if a day somewhere was missed. That one day would up your tier percentage by 10%.
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Hi Adam. Let’s step through your types of service and see which one count to see how much Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility you have. None of your National Guard time will count from February 2000 to August 2005, if it was normal weekend drill time. However, your two deployments will definitely count, so you have 28 months for sure. Most likely your MOS schools will count as they are credited as eligible time once you have attained at least 24 months of eligibility.
As far as your ADSW, that normally is Title 10 time, so it should count. If it happened to be Title 32 time, but it was “for the purpose of organizing, administering, recruiting, instructing or training” which is the definition of Title 32 time that counts for Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility, then it would count also. So with your ADSW time most likely counting, regardless of which title of the U.S. Code it falls under, that should add another 9 months putting you over the 36 months of Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility, even without counting your MOS schools.
Keep in mind that when you switch from REAP to the Post 9/11 GI Bill that you will only get the same number of Post 9/11 months of eligibility that you had left under REAP. If you have exhausted all of your REAP entitlement, then switch, you would get the additional 12 months.
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What you need to do Justin is to send Member 4 copy of your latest DD 214 attached to your VA Form 22-1990 that you can submit from the eBenefits website. That will get you an updated Certificate of Eligibility. However, when you first separated in June 2001, you would have had the Montgomery GI Bill. With your latest round of service, you would also qualify for the Post 9/11 GI Bill at about the 70 % level.
In case you are not familiar with the benefits of the Post 9/11 GI Bill, the VA pays your tuition/fees in full (up to your percentage) if you attend a public school. If you choose to attend a private school, then they would pay up to 70% of $17,000 per year. You would get a monthly housing allowance and a book stipend. Because you are not at the 100% level, you would not qualify for the Yellow Ribbon program.
Under the MGIB, you would get a fixed monthly amount, which for a full-time student having served at least three years, is $1,473 per month. Out of that amount you have to pay all your own tuition, fees, books and any other education-related expenses. And since the implementation of GI Bill 2.0, the Post 9/11 GI Bill functions nearly like the MGIB as far as the training programs it will cover.
Also, if you switch GI Bills, your delimitation date would extend out to 2018 as the Post 9/11 GI Bill has a 15-year delimitation date instead of the 10 years like the MGIB. Check it out to see if you qualify and if it would work for you!
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You could actually have two GI Bills Clayton, depending if you signed up for the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) and made your $1,200 contribution or you signed a declination stating you did not want it. Due to your dates of service, you have secured the Post 9/11 GI Bill at the 90% tier.
While you have 36 months of entitlements under each GI Bill, you can only use one GI Bill at a time. Under the Rule of 48, you get a maximum of 48 combined total months of benefits.
If you still have 36 months of unused benefits from the MGIB, you could transfer to the Post 9/11 GI Bill after you have used up all 36 months of Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits, you would get your $1,200 MGIB contribution back.
If you stay with the MGIB , use up all 36 months of your MGIB benefits and then switch to the Post 9/11 GI Bill, you can get an additional 12 months of Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits. So it comes down to if you want the money back or extra months of entitlement.
To start using your GI Bill, you need a Certificate of Eligibility which you get by submitting VA Form 22-1990 from the eBenefits website. The form is the same regardless of which GI Bill you have. If you are sure you don’t have MGIB , check block 9A in Part II of the form. If you are sure you have the MGIB, then check block 9F in Part II and fill in the rest of the requested information.
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Hi Josh. Most of the ROTC scholarship questions I get are from four-year programs and those folks do incur a four-year commitment.
After digging around, I did find a reference where if you were paid $3,400 in any one year in ROTC scholarship money, then you incurred a four-year commitment. That doesn’t seem fair and I would think it was a year for year thing. If anyone knows differently and can provide the source of information, please let me know.
Also, I found this on the Army Deputy Chief of Staff website “Cadets who receive an ROTC Scholarship incur a 4-year active duty service obligation (ADSO). Those 4 years are not creditable active duty service for computation of Post-9/11 GI Bill benefits.” It doesn’t differentiate between a 2 and 4-year scholarship.
As far as your debt, if you haven’t already, you will be hearing from the VA Debt Management Center. Arrange a payback schedule with them and start paying the overpayment down. If you don’t set up a payment schedule, then they will stop GI Bill payments until the debt is repaid.
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No Manuel, the VA did not make a mistake as long as you have one qualifying period of service ending in an Honorable Discharge, which you said you did, for the time period qualifying you for the Post 9/11 GI Bill – after September 10, 2001.
The VA can’t take away your benefits, but they can prevent you from using them. For example, if you only had the one General Discharge, then you could not use your GI Bill education benefits, however, you still have them – they did not go anywhere, nor did anyone take them from you.
Now let’s say you wanted to apply to have your General Discharge upgraded to Honorable. You do so by submitting DD Form 293 to the Discharge Review Board of your military branch for approval. Note, it can take up to a year to hear back and there is not a guarantee they will upgrade it. I wanted to make that clear because of a rumor going around that after six months, a discharge is automatically upgraded – that is not true.
In our example, now that your General Discharge had been changed to Honorable, you would be able to use the education benefits that were on hold when you still have a General. Make sense?
But, because you have one period of service ending in an Honorable Discharge already, you are fine and will be able to use your benefits.
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