Posts Tagged ‘Montgomery GI Bill’

March 21st, 2012
by Ron Kness
I am dazed and confused at this point. My situation is this, I served for 1 year and 9 months before receiving an Honorable Discharge, Jan 2001-Mar 2003. I paid into the Montgomery GI Bill and used approximately 18 months of it to go to a vocational/technical school. All together I have roughly 85 credit hours, maybe half of which I believe will transfer, maybe! I think I have 11 months left of my GI Bill, and I am now considering going back to school to get my bachelors degree. I live in Texas and have recently learned about the Hazelwood Act but I’m not sure what any of what I just mentioned means. So, if your in my shoes, how do you make the most of the benefits at hand? Does it matter in this equation that I am a 50% disabled veteran? Help Please! – Chris

No Chris, being 50% disabled doesn’t account for anything different. Usually it takes 100% disability before things start to change appreciably.

Generally to get a bachelor’s degree, you need about 120 credits. You said that maybe 45 or so credits will transfer, so you need about another 75 or so. Fortunately, the Hazelwood Act can provide you up to 150 hours of education benefit. So being you need about 75, you will have more than enough to finish getting your bachelor’s degree.

Also, you may use the rest of your Montgomery GI Bill benefits in conjunction with the Hazelwood Act – something you can’t do when using the Post 9/11 GI Bill.

Just so you know, you have to meet the Hazelwood Act requirements as set forth by the Texas Veterans Commission to qualify for the educational benefit, which are:

  • Having been a Texas resident upon entry into the military, entered into active federal duty in the State of Texas, or declared Texas as his or her home of record at the time of entry into the armed forces as documented on his or her DD Form 214;
  • Having a military discharge of honorable or general, under honorable conditions;
  • Served for at least 181 days of active duty service (excluding training);
  • Not be in default on an education loan made or guaranteed by the State of Texas and not in default on a federal loan if that default is the reason the student cannot use his or her federal veterans’ benefits.

The only other requirement is you must also live in Texas when going to school there.

March 15th, 2012
by Ron Kness
Ron, good afternoon. I’m a Honorable Discharged Navy veteran. I have used my Chapter 30-Active MGIB for my A.A. Trying to find out which online senior colleges for Bachelors will VA approve for MGIB. Any information you could provide or VA.GOV web site would be greatly appreciated. Have a good day. Respectfully – Mike

There are several ways, Mike, to find out which schools accept the Montgomery GI Bill. One source is the VA’s WEAMS Institution Search site. Another site is right here at GI Bill.com. The big thing is to make sure both the program you want and the GI Bill you are going to use are approved at the school you want to attend. Some schools are approved for one GI Bill, but not the other, and not all programs at a school may be GI Bill approved.

However, I do want to bring one other item to light. You may also be eligible for the Post 9/11 GI Bill and depending on your eligibility percentage, it might be a better deal for you than the MGIB.

Under the MGIB, you would get a fixed $1,473 per month as a full-time student and you have to pay your own tuition and other educational-related expenses. Under the Post 9/11 GI Bill, the VA pays your tuition at the resident rate if you attend a public school full-time, or up to $17,500 per year if you go full-time to a private school. With either venue, you also get a monthly housing allowance and a book stipend each semester.

You had mentioned taking classes online. Just so you know, full-time online-only students get 50% of the average housing allowance of campus based students or $673.50 per month. One way around this is to take one class per semester on a campus that applies to your degree plan. By doing that, you can get the other 50%.

March 15th, 2012
by Ron Kness
Hello, I used Top-Up to pay for a class in 2010 under the MGIB but I am planning on separating this summer. In August I will have 5 years in active duty service, but since I used money from my GI Bill can I still switch to the Post 9-11 before I get out? And not lose money? Thank you. – Ashley

Yes Ashley, you can switch to the Post 9/11 GI Bill and not lose money. As a matter-of-fact, you can switch and get some of your Montgomery GI Bill contribution back once you use up all of your transferred Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits. More on that in a minute.

The Post 9/11 GI Bill’s pay structure is different from the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB). As you know, the MGIB pays you a fixed amount per month and you have to pay all your own tuition and education expenses. With the Post 9/11 GI Bill, the VA pays your tuition directly to the school and you get a monthly housing allowance and a book stipend once per semester (up to the $1,000 per year limit). Many times just the monthly housing allowance alone is as much or more than what you get from the MGIB.

Because you have served 5 years, you are already eligible for 100% of the Post 9/11 GI Bill. Even though you used Top-Up for just one class, you have most of your benefits left. If you switch right now, you will get the same number of months of under the Post 9/11 GI Bill. Just so you know, if you use up your MGIB benefits first, then you could get an additional 12 months of Post 9/11 GI Bill.

Only you know for sure which GI Bill is for you. Oh, one more thing – your $1,200 MGIB contribution? If you switch and once you have used up all your remaining benefits, you will get a prorated amount of your contribution back. The VA divides the $1,200 by your 36 months of benefits and multiplies that amount by how many months of benefits you converted to the Post 9/11 GI Bill. You get your contribution rebate included with your last housing allowance payment.

March 14th, 2012
by Ron Kness
Who can I talk to if I’m not getting the full amount I suppose to be getting from my GI Bill? – Shatina

My question to you, Shatina, is what is making you think you are not getting the full amount you are entitled to? To give you some reference, if you are a full-time student with three years of more of service, under the Montgomery GI Bill, you would get $1,473 per month. If you have fewer years of serviceor you are not attending school full time, then you would get a smaller amount.

If you have 100% Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility and attend a public school full time, then the VA would pay your tuition and eligible fees directly to your school, at the resident tuition rate. If you attend a private school, then  the VA would pay up to $17,500 per year in tuition. In both situations, you would get a housing allowance based on the zip code of your school and the number of credits you are taking. You would also get a book stipend once each quarter paid at the rate of $41.67 per credit (up to $1,000 per academic year). Of course, if you have less than 100% Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility, then these amount would be multiplied by your tier percentage.

So I don’t know how these numbers stack up against what you are actually receiving, but at least it gives you a point of reference of what you should get versus what you are actually getting.

As far as who to talk to if the amount you are getting is not correct? That would be either the VA Certifying Official at your school or the VA itself.

March 13th, 2012
by Ron Kness
When I went to Boot Camp, we had the option to pick either the regular MGIB or the Post 9/11 one. I originally picked the MGIB, but looking more into the Post 9/11 I feel it may be a better option. As of right now, I am almost 2 years into service, and have paid the $1200 dollar MGIB fee. If I switch, is there any way to recoup the money since I never used the program? – Kelley

Kelley, once you have three years in, so that you have 100% eligibility, most likely the Post 9/11 GI Bill would be your best bet. Under the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB), you get a fixed amount of $1,473 per month, if you go to school full-time, and you have to pay all your own education expenses. If you use the Post 9/11 GI Bill, the VA pays your tuition and you get a monthly housing allowance (which many times is equal to or higher than your MGIB payment). Plus, once each semester, you get a book stipend paid at $41.67 per credit (up to the $1,000 yearly cap).

And yes, there is a way to get your $1,200 MGIB contribution back. Switch from the MGIB to the Post 9/11 GI Bill with all 36 months of MGIB benefits intact, and once you use up all 36 months under the Post 9/11 GI Bill, you get your $1,200 back as part of your final housing allowance.

Of course, the other thing you could do is use up all 36 months of your MGIB and then switch to the Post 9/11 GI Bill and get an additional 12 months of education benefits. So it depends on whether the money or extra year of benefits is the most important to you.

March 9th, 2012
by Ron Kness
I paid into the GI Bill for the required 12 months, and retired from AD with an honorable discharge in 2007. Is my GI Bill benefit still good, and how long do I have to use it? – David

Yes David, your Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) is still good. With the MGIB, you have 10 years from your last date of discharge which makes your delimitation date in 2017.

However David, you also qualify for the 100% of the Post 9/11 GI Bill. Under the Rule of 48, if you qualify for two or more GI Bills, the most combined total months of benefits is capped at 48.

So your choices are to use up your 36 MGIB months and then switch to the Post 9/1 GI Bill to get your additional 12 months, or to switch to the Post 9/11 GI Bill right away and get just 36 months.

You are probably asking yourself “Why would I want to switch now and only get 36 months?” Because the Post 9/11 GI Bill pays more in most cases. The VA pays your tuition in full if you attend a public school or up to $17,500 if you go to a private school. Monthly, you get a housing allowance that averages $1,300 and once each semester, you get a book stipend up to $1,000 per year.

Under the MGIB, you get $1,473 and you have to pay your own tuition and other education-related expenses and since implementing the GI Bill 2.0 both GI Bills almost mirror each other in the training covered.

March 8th, 2012
by Ron Kness
Is it possible to get a bachelor degree by using tuition assistance while in active duty? And in case it is possible, would then be possible to get another degree with my G.I Bill once I separate from the Air Force? – Mellanie

Yes Mellanie, it is possible to get a bachelor’s degree while on active duty, if you stay long enough. Tuition Assistance (TA) pays up to $250 per credit with a $4,500 annual tuition limit. So you can take up to 18 credits per year, just using TA. Once you get a couple of years of service under your belt, you can start using Tuition Top-Up. Under that program, if your tuition costs more than what TA will pay, or you hit your annual limit early in the year, you can use the Top-Up program to pay your tuition.

How it works is the Air Force pays the whole bill. Whatever TA doesn’t pay, the Air Force bills the VA. The VA pays the Air Force and then converts what they paid into days and months of entitlement and deducts that amount from your GI Bill benefits. It is a great way to maximize the use of your GI Bill as TA picks up much of the bill.

Because TA and the GI Bill are two separate programs, yes it is possible to get another degree after you are out by using your GI Bill. Instead of getting another bachelor’s degree, I suggest getting a master’s in your same career field as your bachelor degree.

Also, don’t forget about getting transferring in your military credits and CLEP tests to get your degree even quicker.

March 7th, 2012
by Ron Kness
What would happen if I don’t use all of the G.I Bill benefits? Let’s say I am able to get my bachelor degree in less than 36 months because I had transferred credits from another institution that I attended before enlisting. Can I use those left over months in order to get another degree? Or would the money get refunded to my bank account? Or what does exactly happen with the money leftover? – Zach

As you know Zach, you get 36 months of Montgomery GI Bill benefits, but it is a “use or lose” system, meaning if you do not use all 36 months up before your delimitation date, you lose what is left. It isn’t like there is an account with money in it that you will get at the end for the months you didn’t use. It is just months of benefits.

The purpose of the GI Bill is to train you for a career. To that end, generally the VA allows you to get a second degree at the same level in a related field or an advanced degree in the same field. So, yes it is possible to get a second degree, but normally not in a totally different field. Before you start another degree, contact the VA and get your degree plan approved first.

The VA does this so veterans don’t use up all their GI Bill benefits and then end up with nothing they can earn a career from. Otherwise, there are those who would take classes here and there “willy nilly” fashion and not have anything at the end to show for it.

March 6th, 2012
by Ron Kness
I am exhausting my Ch. 30 Montgomery GI Bill. After this semester I will have 1 month and 20 days of remaining entitlement. If I start a semester with only that amount of time left will I only receive benefits for 1 month and 20 days or for the entire semester? I would assume just for the time I have remaining, but I might have heard they will cover the entire semester if you start it with some benefits remaining. – Mark

Actually Mark, because you are using the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) you can continue getting paid up to 12 weeks after you run out of benefits or until the end of the semester, whichever comes first.  In your case, you will have just under 12 weeks left when you run out of benefits, so you should be fine until the end of the semester.

If you qualify for the Post 9/11 GI Bill, another option is to switch to the New GI Bill with an election start date after you have run out of MGIB benefits. That way the transition to the Post 9/11 GI Bill and pay structure will be seamless and you will get the additional 12 months of entitlement at the Post 9/11 GI Bill payment structure.

If you qualify, you can switch by submitting VA Form 22-1990 from the eBenefits website. It is on this form where you enter your election start date.

In return, you will get a Certificate of Eligibility, showing how many months of eligibility you have left. It will show less than 12 months, because they will deduct the months and days you need to bring you to the end of the semester after you ran out of MGIB benefits.

March 2nd, 2012
by Ron Kness
I retired after 20 years in 2006. My co-workers asked me if I had the Post-911 GI bill and I don’t. I have the MGIB. Since I am retired, can I switch over to the Post-911 Bill. I have only used my MGIB for 4 months. Thank you. – David

Yes you can switch even though you are retired David. What you can’t do after retiring is transfer Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits to your spouse of dependent. However, there is a petition circulating that is trying to change that.

As far as switching, there are a couple of ways of doing it. One, you can transfer your 32 months of Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) you have left and get 32 months of Post 9/1 GI Bill entitlement. Or you can use up your 32 months of MGIB, switch and get an additional 12 months of Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits.

One thing to note, if you switch to the Post 9/11 GI Bill with 32 months of MGIB left, you will get back approximately $1,067 of your original $1,200 contribution. It will come as part of your last housing allowance.

Whether you want to switch or not will be somewhat dependent on your educational goals. If you plan to get a four-year degree, switching now may be a good idea. If you will need the additional 12 months, then you might want to stick with the MGIB for now.

If you decide to switch, you will need to submit VA Form 22-1990 from the eBenefits website. In return you will get your Certificate of Eligibility that you will need when enrolling in school.