Hi John. I looked at the VA-approved school list and I found a University of Dublin (Trinity College) on the list, so I’m assuming that is the one you are looking at. It has both of the majors you are looking at taking.
The Post 9/11 GI Bill pay structure is slightly different for students attending foreign schools. The VA will pay up to $439.69 per credit for tuition and $13,713.88 in fees per term. If your school charges more than that amount, you will have to pay the difference. For a housing allowance, it pays a flat $1,311 per month regardless of where you live overseas. An you would also get the book stipend payable at a rate of $41.67 per credit.
I’m not sure if the VA would pay for a joint honors program or not. Be sure to contact them before enrolling. The purpose of the GI Bill is to train you for a career. So, the VA will look at your degree or education plan for that school. They may only pay for you to take one major or the other. That is the value of talking to them beforehand as it could affect how you want to progress.
As far as if it is advisable or not, there is nothing wrong with it and it would be quite an experience.
There is one more option to consider. If you attend a school here in the States, you may qualify for the Yellow Ribbon program. If your school and course are part of the program, your school could pay up to half of the difference between what the school charges and GI Bill pays. The VA would pay an equal amount. This leaves very little left for you to pay. Something to look at.
If I graduated with my A.S. at the community college, can I continue taking extra classes there under the GI Bill, so long as those classes will eventually count toward the B.S. that WILL be offered at the university? For example, my degree only requires C and Java programming. The B.S. will require C++ programming. Can I take C++ at the same community college after graduating with the AS, while I wait for the university to implement the new BS program and related courses? – Tacita
According to the VA process, I would say not, but it could as explained farther down in the post. Generally how the Post 9/11 GI Bill works is you would pick a degree program, enroll in that program and the VA pays for courses applying to that degree program. If your school is not yet offering the program, then you most likely could not enroll in it, but keep reading.
If there is another school involved, then you designate the one where you have your degree program as the “parent” school and the other one as the secondary school. For classes you have to take at your secondary school, your parent school sends them the paperwork telling them which classes you will take from them. Once you are finished with the courses, the secondary school sends the transcript over to the parent school, which in turn, posts those classes as completed to your degree plan.
If your parent school already has the degree plan in place and will let you enroll, it could work. You would take all your classes at your secondary school until your parent school starts teaching the classes. I believe it will come down to if your school has the degree plan in place and can enroll you, or whether you can sweet-talk the VA into paying for classes in a degree plan that doesn’t currently exist. Good luck with that!
I can help you out with that Nancy. The real question is will your GI Bill pay for the training courses you want to take? If you go to the VA’s Find a School Website, you can enter a course title and it will tell you if it is an approved course.
If you are using the Montgomery GI Bill, it pays for both degree and non-degree courses, such as trade, technical, licensure and certification training and it will reimburse you up to $2,000 per licensure or certification test. If you are using the Post 9/11 GI Bill, right now it will only pay for degree-producing courses or non-degree courses taught at a school also teaching degree courses. In the fall however, that will change. With the passage of the GI Bill 2.0, the Post 9/11 GI Bill will cover courses similar to what the MGIB covers.
As far as forms, to start using your GI Bill, submit VA Form 22-1990 (if you are the servicemember) or VA Form 22-1990e (if you are using transferred benefits) from the eBenefits website.
Hi Sherman, I did not see any PhD programs listed as approved for GI Bill use at James Cook University. I don’t know how many they have other than in Astronomy, but it seems odd that so many Master’s and Bachelor’s programs have received approvals, but no Doctoral programs made the list.
It could simply be a case that the VA hasn’t updated their list or it might be that most service members and veterans who use Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits use them for Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees so the VA doesn’t always list Doctoral programs.
I would think that with that many approved programs the school has a VA Certifying Official or someone who works closely with U.S. service members and veterans. I suggest you talk to them to find out the status of the PhD program and the ability to use your Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits for it. You might also want to talk to your education officer or the closest VA rep and I wouldn’t sign up for the courses until the VA verifies the program is covered by your benefits.
In the U.S. each state has a State Approving Agency that works with the VA in approving schools and programs. I’m not sure who assists the VA in approving overseas schools and programs.
Jaime, during the timeframe you were in the Army, you would have had the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) which pays for trade, technical, licenses and certification courses along with degree-producing courses. The issue could be that UTI is not listed as a VA-approved school, so that could be the reason your GI Bill would not pay for your course. It wasn’t the course you took that was the issue, it was the school you took it at. If you would have taken your course at a GI Bill-approved school, it would have been covered. I’m curious why you did not investigate further as to why your GI Bill would not pay for your course.
The unfortunate part is you can’t use your GI Bill to directly pay off loans, so you are stuck paying them off yourself. Also, just so you know, your MGIB will expire in 2014 if you have plans on using it before it expires.
Hi Sara, I’m guessing that the cosmetology school you want to attend isn’t approved for Montgomery GI Bill or Post 9/11 GI Bill use as between the two of them they cover most programs. I’m afraid none of these GI Bill programs has a provision allowing you to cash in your benefits; you will have to attend an approved school to be eligible to use them.
You might want to talk to the administration at the school you have your heart set on to see if they would be interested in pursuing approval for GI Bill use. I would think it would help with their enrollment if you and other veterans could use their benefits to attend the school’s programs. They would need to contact the Wisconsin State Approving Agency to get the process started. The VA works with the state Approving Agencies in each state to get schools approved and monitor their programs once in the system.
I’m not sure how long the process takes or whether your school would get approved, but it might be worth a try. Other than that you might have to pick another cosmetology school that’s approved for either the Montgomery GI Bill or the Post 9/11 GI Bill.
Hi Matthew, The Netherlands is a beautiful country; I had an opportunity to spend some time there many years ago when I was in the military. The Montgomery GI Bill and the Post 9/11 GI Bill do provide the opportunity to attend school in the Netherlands or you can also use them to take an approved online degree program.
When I looked I saw 26 schools in the Netherlands approved for GI Bill use, but I don’t know what particular program you’re searching for. All you have to do to find the approved schools is go to this VA web page and search for institutions of higher learning. Instead on choosing a state, over to the side is a country button to click on and a list of countries will be displayed.
Choose the Netherlands and you will see a list of approved schools for the GI Bill. When you click on each school you’ll see more information like how much the Post 9/11 GI Bill will provide for attending that school. If you click the button in the top right corner on each school, a list of approved programs at that school will be displayed. I would think that with 26 schools you should have a good chance of finding the program you hope to pursue. Good Luck!
Hi Bryan, I think that is a great career plan as there should always be job opportunities for registered nurses. It sounds like you have already looked, but I see over seven pages of schools in the Philippines that are approved for GI Bill use. If you are still in the Army, you are probably also eligible for the Post 9/11 GI Bill so you might want to do a GI Bill comparison to determine which GI Bill provides you with the most benefits for the education program you plan to pursue. In some cases the Post 9/11 GI Bill provides more benefits than the Montgomery GI Bill for a degree program.
As far as whether your courses in the Philippines would be recognized by the medical field in this country, that is something I suggest you talk to some medical professionals about and also the state office that governs licensing for nurses in the state where you plan to work. I’m just guessing here, but I would imagine that some courses would be recognized and there are probably going to be some courses you have to take in this country. All states require registered nurses to pass exams and be licensed to work in the state and each is a little different in their requirements.
I would be very, very careful with this issue as the last thing you want to do is to spend a couple of years taking classes and using up your benefits only to find you can’t use your education to work as a nurse in this country. Good luck!
Hi Nicholas, I couldn’t find a Meridian College in Tennessee, but I found one in Mississippi that is approved for GI Bill use. Perhaps the one in Tennessee is a satellite campus? I would think that there are different types of surgical assistant programs depending on the specialty you pursue, but I would also think they would all require at least an Associate’s Degree. At least I hope they do; I would hate to think the person helping the surgeon during my operation got where they are by taking a two week course somewhere.
I suggest deciding what specialty you want to pursue or perhaps there is just a general surgical assistance program and then doing an Internet search to see if there are any schools close to you that offer the program. Once you locate some schools you can go onto this VA web page and see if the school and program are approved. Most schools that offer at least an Associate’s Degree are approved for the Post 9/11 GI Bill, but you should check to be sure.
When you go onto that web page choose institution of higher learning and click on a state. A list of schools will appear and when you choose a school you will see institution of higher learning in the top right corner. Click on that and a list of approved programs will appear. Use Meridian Community College in Mississippi as an example and you will see that their Associate’s Degree programs are approved for the Post 9/11 GI Bill.
You have a lot of options in that arena. A good place to start is at a local community college, if there is one in your area. These junior colleges usually offer high school equivalency programs. You may also consider an associates’ degree, which could be as easy to attain, and affordable as well.
You won’t necessarily be starting from ground zero, either. Many colleges accept experience as transfer credits, and a military career certainly counts are experience. You should order a copy of your AARTS transcript (that’s the Army/American Council on Education Registry Transcript System), which should list your military training and experience in college credit terms.