Yes, Binal, if you are still serving and meet the transfer qualifications, you can transfer as much as you want up to the limit of your unused Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits. To review the qualification, you have to had served for at least six years and agree to serve an additional four years, unless you are within four years of being retirement eligible. In that case, the additional time required is prorated down to a lesser amount.
As far as his school not being listed on Weam’s, yes his school can request to become a VA-approved school. They have to address these questions in their approval request letter to the VA.
Keep in mind it does quite awhile for a school to get approved and approval doesn’t mean the school will accept all GI Bills or that all of their programs will be covered. The school decides what parameters they want in the approval request letter. My point being that even if his school gets approved, his coursework program might not be included.
If he has contacts at the school, he may want to help them draft their letter so he is sure his course gets included and for the correct GI Bill – the Post 9/11 GI Bill.
There are VA-approved schools in Japan Lawrence where you can use your Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB). Go to the Weam’s School Search website and click on the Country button. From the Select Country drop-down menu, click on Japan and then click the Submit button. You will see a list of 18 schools in Japan. You should find at least one that would fit your educational goals.
As far as which GI Bill to use, more than likely the Post 9/11 GI Bill would be your best bet. If you use the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB), then you would get up to $1,473 per month and have to pay all your own tuition, fees, book and any other education-related expenses.
If you use the Post 9/11 GI Bill, the VA would pay your tuition and fees up to $17,500 per year. You would get a monthly housing allowance of $1,347 and a book stipend of $41.67 per credit hour up to the $1,000 per year cap, which is enough to cover 24 credits.
As you can see, and you noted this, in your case there really isn’t any reason to keep the old MGIB. And if you transfer all 36 months of your MGIB over to the Post 9/11 GI Bill, once you finish using up your entitlements, you get your $1,200 contribution back. How sweet is that!
I’m not sure John why you want to stay with the MGIB to get your AA degree. If you use your Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) you would get a maximum of $1,426 per month for 36 months (assuming you had three years of qualifying service and had made your $1,200 MGIB contribution). Out of that amount, you would have to pay tuition, fees, books and other education-related expenses.
If you switch to the Post 9/11 GI Bill right away, for that same three years of service, the VA pays your tuition and eligible fees directly to your school for up to 36 months and you get a monthly housing stipend averaging $1,200 per month across the nation – alone almost as much as your MGIB payment – plus you get the book stipend calculated at $41.67 per credit with a yearly cap of $1,000 per year.
And it gets better – if you switch to the Post 9/11 GI Bill with all 36 months of your MGIB entitlement left, once you finish using up your Post 9/11 GI Bill entitlement, your get your $1,200 MGIB contribution back. It comes as part of your last housing stipend payment.
However, there is one advantage to staying with the MGIB. Once you use up your 36 months of entitlement, you could switch and get an additional 12 months of Post 9/11 GI bill entitlement, but since you indicated you are going for a BA, it doesn’t sound like you need the extra months. I would switch to the Post 9/11 GI Bill right away – but that’s just me.
Actually Nick, you can get a list of VA-approved school by using the Weam’s school search feature on the VA website. I took the liberty of running that search for you and I found four schools in Prague:
What I can’t tell is if all of them teach classes in English, but you can contact each one and find out.
As far as what the Post 9/11 GI Bill pays when attending school in a foreign county, the pay structure is different then when attending a school in the U.S. Right now, the VA will still pay for your tuition and fees directly to your school, but tuition is limited to $469.39 per credit. Fees are maxed out at $13,713.88.
For a housing stipend, you get a fixed rate of $1,333 per month and you would still get the book stipend of $41.67 per credit (up to the $1,000 yearly limit). Just make sure you are taking at least 51% of the number of credits your school considers to be full-time, so you qualify for the housing stipend. You can get more information on attending foreign schools from this VA Factsheet.
With the passage of the GI Bill 2.0, the pay structure will go up to $17,500 per year. So if your tuition and fees are below that, you are in good shape. If it above that amount, then you will have to pay the difference.
For your VA office contact, use the office in Buffalo New York. They have been tasked to handle foreign school student issues.
It certainly will pay for a master’s degree Sam, provided your school is on the VA’s list of approved schools! As a matter-of-fact, the Post 9/11 GI Bill will cover programs all the way up through the doctorate level. What it will not pay for right now is the monthly housing allowance to those who are attending classes wholly online.
But, that will change starting in August. With the passage of the GI Bill 2.0, full-time online-only students can get up to $673.50 per month in a housing allowance. Less than full-time students will get a prorated lesser amount.
If you are eligible for 100% of the Post 9/11 GI Bill, the VA pays your tuition and eligible fees directly to your school. Right now, they will pay up to the in-state maximum, but starting in August, those in-state maximums are eliminated.
At the beginning of each semester, you also get a book stipend paid at the rate of $41.67 per credit with a maximum of $1,000 per academic year. After August, you would start getting the reduced housing allowance.
Of course the way around that, and to get the full housing allowance, would be to take at least one class per semester pertaining to your degree plan at a brick and mortar school.
You should be able to make this work Bill. The key is for your educational plan to show your final desired outcome is to get a BS in game programming. That would make it easier to justify taking the classes at two different schools.
How the Post 9/11 GI Bill works when you are going to two schools is one school is designated as your “parent” school with the other one as your “secondary”. You sit down with a counselor at your parent school and together decide which classes you need to take at the secondary school. The primary school sends a letter to your secondary school informing them of the classes you will take. Once you have completed the secondary school classes, your primary school is notified and the credits from the secondary school are transferred to your primary school transcript.
Thinking this through, it makes sense to me to designate your school having the BS in game programming as your primary and your school having the AS in computer programming as your secondary before you start that last semester. Have your primary designate the final couple of classes you need to complete your AS. Once those two classes are done and your AS credits applied to your game programming BS degree plan, then you should be set to finish your degree at your primary school.
Because this can get kind of tricky, work with your VA Certifying Official at your primary school first. They are trained in how to do this and can be a valuable resource for you to use.
Hi John. I looked at the VA-approved school list and I found a University of Dublin (Trinity College) on the list, so I’m assuming that is the one you are looking at. It has both of the majors you are looking at taking.
The Post 9/11 GI Bill pay structure is slightly different for students attending foreign schools. The VA will pay up to $439.69 per credit for tuition and $13,713.88 in fees per term. If your school charges more than that amount, you will have to pay the difference. For a housing allowance, it pays a flat $1,311 per month regardless of where you live overseas. An you would also get the book stipend payable at a rate of $41.67 per credit.
I’m not sure if the VA would pay for a joint honors program or not. Be sure to contact them before enrolling. The purpose of the GI Bill is to train you for a career. So, the VA will look at your degree or education plan for that school. They may only pay for you to take one major or the other. That is the value of talking to them beforehand as it could affect how you want to progress.
As far as if it is advisable or not, there is nothing wrong with it and it would be quite an experience.
There is one more option to consider. If you attend a school here in the States, you may qualify for the Yellow Ribbon program. If your school and course are part of the program, your school could pay up to half of the difference between what the school charges and GI Bill pays. The VA would pay an equal amount. This leaves very little left for you to pay. Something to look at.
If I graduated with my A.S. at the community college, can I continue taking extra classes there under the GI Bill, so long as those classes will eventually count toward the B.S. that WILL be offered at the university? For example, my degree only requires C and Java programming. The B.S. will require C++ programming. Can I take C++ at the same community college after graduating with the AS, while I wait for the university to implement the new BS program and related courses? – Tacita
According to the VA process, I would say not, but it could as explained farther down in the post. Generally how the Post 9/11 GI Bill works is you would pick a degree program, enroll in that program and the VA pays for courses applying to that degree program. If your school is not yet offering the program, then you most likely could not enroll in it, but keep reading.
If there is another school involved, then you designate the one where you have your degree program as the “parent” school and the other one as the secondary school. For classes you have to take at your secondary school, your parent school sends them the paperwork telling them which classes you will take from them. Once you are finished with the courses, the secondary school sends the transcript over to the parent school, which in turn, posts those classes as completed to your degree plan.
If your parent school already has the degree plan in place and will let you enroll, it could work. You would take all your classes at your secondary school until your parent school starts teaching the classes. I believe it will come down to if your school has the degree plan in place and can enroll you, or whether you can sweet-talk the VA into paying for classes in a degree plan that doesn’t currently exist. Good luck with that!
I can help you out with that Nancy. The real question is will your GI Bill pay for the training courses you want to take? If you go to the VA’s Find a School Website, you can enter a course title and it will tell you if it is an approved course.
If you are using the Montgomery GI Bill, it pays for both degree and non-degree courses, such as trade, technical, licensure and certification training and it will reimburse you up to $2,000 per licensure or certification test. If you are using the Post 9/11 GI Bill, right now it will only pay for degree-producing courses or non-degree courses taught at a school also teaching degree courses. In the fall however, that will change. With the passage of the GI Bill 2.0, the Post 9/11 GI Bill will cover courses similar to what the MGIB covers.
As far as forms, to start using your GI Bill, submit VA Form 22-1990 (if you are the servicemember) or VA Form 22-1990e (if you are using transferred benefits) from the eBenefits website.
Hi Sherman, I did not see any PhD programs listed as approved for GI Bill use at James Cook University. I don’t know how many they have other than in Astronomy, but it seems odd that so many Master’s and Bachelor’s programs have received approvals, but no Doctoral programs made the list.
It could simply be a case that the VA hasn’t updated their list or it might be that most service members and veterans who use Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits use them for Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees so the VA doesn’t always list Doctoral programs.
I would think that with that many approved programs the school has a VA Certifying Official or someone who works closely with U.S. service members and veterans. I suggest you talk to them to find out the status of the PhD program and the ability to use your Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits for it. You might also want to talk to your education officer or the closest VA rep and I wouldn’t sign up for the courses until the VA verifies the program is covered by your benefits.
In the U.S. each state has a State Approving Agency that works with the VA in approving schools and programs. I’m not sure who assists the VA in approving overseas schools and programs.