Posts Tagged ‘GI Bill Rates’

February 7th, 2012
by Ron Kness
I am currently enrolled in community college for my A.S. in Paralegal Studies — and I’ve been taking extra classes, so I’m scheduled to graduate in five semesters instead of eight. I’m in the process of researching four-year colleges and the one I want to go to is out of state, so all my classes would be online. I’m not worried about the BAH cut, but how would this work? Would the VA pay tuition up to the max rate of the state I currently live in? Would I still receive a book stipend? Does the amount of credits I take per semester affect how long I can use it for? I mean, if I manage a B.S. in nine semesters —24-25 months, can I use the remaining 10-11 months for my Masters? Thanks! – Crystal

All great question Crystal! I’ll do my best to answer them.

It sounds like you know the maximum Post 9/11 GI Bill housing allowance you can get as a full-time online-only student is $673.50. As far as tuition, most online schools do not differentiate between resident and non-resident students for their online programs as they have a set online tuition rate.

However, if your school does have different rates, then the VA will pay the tuition amount that a resident student would pay. You would be responsible for the difference between the resident and non-resident amount. In addition to your housing allowance, you would also get the book stipend once each semester.

As far as the number of credits you take having an effect on how long you benefits last, it won’t and here is why. If you are at least a full-time student, Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility use is determined by the number of days you are in school per month. So in your case, you use up 30 days of eligibility for each 30 days you are in school. Whatever you have left you can use toward getting your master’s degree.

December 2nd, 2011
by Ron Kness
Hi Mr. Kness. I’m considering getting a master’s degree at a private university whose tuition exceeds the post 9/11 GI Bill cap of $17,500. I want to attend part time, and I’m confused about how this affects my benefits. In reading some of the other posts, I’ve learned that attending part time pro-rates the amount of time used on your GI Bill, but how does it affect the amount of tuition paid? The school I want to attend charges $1623/credit hour. If I took 2 3-credit courses/semester (they consider 12 credits full time, so this would be half time), I would be charged $9738/semester, or $19,476 over a 2-semester academic year. Does the GI Bill still pay up to $17,500 per academic year even though I’m only attending half time? Or do they pro-rate the amount of tuition/credit hour they’ll pay? Also, am I correct in understanding that if I went to school half-time, I would be charged half of the time on my GI Bill (so if it was a 4-month semester, I would use up 2 months of my GI Bill?)Thanks for your help! — Emily

Hi Emily. I can help you figure out your Post 9/11 GI Bill tuition payment and entitlement use issues. Under the GI Bill 2.0, the tuition and eligible fee pay structure changed. As you noted it is $17,500, but that figure is for a full-time student, so if your rate of pursuit is less than full-time, that $17,500 amount will be prorated down based on the number of credits you are taking versus how many credits your school considers to be full-time.

So let’s work some numbers. If you school charges $1,623 per credit hour and you are taking 6 credits, they would charge you $9,738 per semester or $19,476 per academic year. However, because your rate of pursuit is half-time, the most they would pay would be up to half of that or $8,750. You would have to make up the other $10,000.

If you are at the 100% Post 9/11 GI Bill tier, and you school has a Yellow Ribbon agreement with the VA and your master’s degree program is covered in their agreement, your school could pay up to half of the difference between what the GI Bill pays and what the school charges. The VA would pay an equal amount, so that would reduce the amount left for you to pay.

If they are a Yellow Ribbon school, you would want to ask them about the specifics of their program for less-than-full-time students as the amount they pay could be less, which in turn means the additional amount the VA pays would be less also.

I do want to caution you against having a 50% rate of pursuit or going half-time. The reason is anything under 51% of what you school considers to be full-time would exclude you from getting the housing allowance. So if you are taking six credits – your would get $0.00 in housing allowance. Take seven credits and you would get 7/12th or 60% of the authorized housing allowance. That is a big difference for taking that one extra credit.

As far as entitlement use, yes it is prorated. So if you take 7 credits you would use up 7/12th of a month of entitlement  (or 17.5 days) for each month you are in school.

November 15th, 2011
by Ron Kness
I am stationed overseas and thinking about transferring to the Post GI Bill. If I am reading this correctly I will have to pay the difference between in and out of state fees because we will not have “NO” state residency when she starts college. – Renee

I don’t think you are interpreting what you are reading correctly. When you enter the military, you still maintain a state residency, usually from the state where you lived when you entered the military. But it really won’t make any difference if you are still serving because the Post 9/11 GI Bill will pay all of your wife’s tuition and fees if she attends a public school and up to $17,500 per year if she goes to a private or foreign school.

I don’t know if you are aware of the transfer of benefits service requirements or not. Before you can make a transfer request, you have to have served for at least six years of which three of those yeas had to be after September 10, 2001. The second requirement is you have to agree to serve an additional four years before a transfer request is approved. If you meet these two service requirements, then you can make a transfer request and get it approved.

If you are still serving when your wife starts school, she would not be eligible for the housing allowance (because you are already drawing BAH for her). If she waits to start school until you are out of the service, then she would get the housing allowance based on the zip code of her school and the number of credits she is taking. Regardless of your serving status, she will get the book stipend of $41.67 per credit, up to $1,000 per year.

September 29th, 2011
by Ron Kness
Hello – some time ago I noted a blog about the use of the MGIB (active duty) for flight training. I’m back on your site and am unable to find a search tool. Can you vector me to anything you have on your site about using the MGIB for flight training? I have some FAA certificates already and I would like to explore using the benefit for additional training. Man, is it difficult to find info and difficult to find places near me (Arlington, VA) where I can use whatever benefit I am allowed to use. Can you help me? Thanks! – Craig

I can help you Craig, but I’m not sure about the vectoring part. I have no idea what it is or even if I’m qualified to do it (lol), however, I can explain the rules of using your MGIB for flight training.

On our site at GIBill.com, your best bet would be to click on the Blog button on the top-line menu. Once on the blog page, then type in “Flight Training” in the SEARCH box. That will bring up all the blogs about flight training. You will have to scroll through to pick out which ones pertain to the MGIB.

You have already passed the first hurdle by already having some FAA certificates. Flight training can use up entitlement at a faster rate as you are charged entitlement based on how much the VA pays for your flight training.

Under Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) rules, the VA can pay 60% of authorized flight training charges. They charge entitlement use at the rate of one month for every month of benefit they pay – $1,426. For example, if 60% of the total charges came to $12,834.00 for a semester, they would charge you 9 months of MGIB entitlement for your four months in that semester (if that is the length of your semester) ($12,834/$1,426=9). So you can see you can burn through your MGIB entitlement rather quickly when taking flight courses. Of course the 40% they do not pay is your responsibility to pay.

As far as flight school in the Arlington, VA area, the Weam’s school search brings up ten. Once on the website, click on Flight from the drop-down menu and then click on Virginia (VA) on the map.

September 12th, 2011
by Ron Kness
My husband transferred 9 months of his GI Bill to me. I am currently enrolled for 14 credits for the fall semester. I just received my Certificate of Eligibility and it says that I am eligible for 50% of the benefits. What exactly does this mean? Is it 50% of the BAH and book stipend too, or is that still based on my credits? Is it 50% of my actual tuition that will be paid, or 50% of the allowable tuition for the state? – Amanda

What it means Amanda, is your husband qualifies for only 50% of the Post 9/11 GI Bill, and when he transferred some of his Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits to you, you inherited his percentage. Financially what it means is you get 50% your tuition paid directly to your school by the VA and you get 50% of the full housing allowance and 50% of the book stipend, up to a maximum of $500 per year (50% of the $1,000 cap).

Of course to qualify for 50% of the full housing allowance, you have to be taking at least the minimum number of credits that you school considers to be full-time. So if your school considers 12 credits as a full-time credit load, then you would have to take 12 credits to get your 50% in housing allowance. You are taking 14, so I assume you should be considered full-time as that is quite a load in itself.

Due to a GI Bill 2.0 change that took effect on August 1st, the housing allowance is directly related to the number of credits a student is taking. For example, if you were only taking 7 credits, then you would get 50% of 7/12th of the housing allowance.

As far as your tuition, a change to the Post 9/11 GI Bill eliminated the in-state maximums, so the VA is now paying actual tuition charges if you attend a public school. In your case, they will pay 50% of the actual charges.

July 29th, 2011
by Ron Kness
I am about to ETS from the Army in a couple months. I’m currently stationed in Germany and I am looking at schools in Prague which are taught in English. My question is, how do I find out if the GI Bill will cover those schools, housing and bah? Is there a list of foreign schools that are able to work with the GI Bill? And is there a veterans affairs office in Germany? I know there is not one on the base I’m at. Thank you very much. Nick

Actually Nick, you can get a list of VA-approved school by using the Weam’s school search feature on the VA website. I took the liberty of running that search for you and I found four schools in Prague:

  • Anglo-American University
  • Charles University
  • Intermediate Professional School of St. Zdislava
  • University of New York in Prague.

What I can’t tell is if all of them teach classes in English, but you can contact each one and find out.

As far as what the Post 9/11 GI Bill pays when attending school in a foreign county, the pay structure is different then when attending a school in the U.S. Right now, the VA will still pay for your tuition and fees directly to your school, but tuition is limited to $469.39 per credit. Fees are maxed out at $13,713.88.

For a housing stipend, you get a fixed rate of $1,333 per month and you would still get the book stipend of $41.67 per credit (up to the $1,000 yearly limit). Just make sure you are taking at least 51% of the number of credits your school considers to be full-time, so you qualify for the housing stipend. You can get more information on attending foreign schools from this VA Factsheet.

With the passage of the GI Bill 2.0, the pay structure will go up to $17,500 per year. So if your tuition and fees are below that, you are in good shape. If it above that amount, then you will have to pay the difference.

For your VA office contact, use the office in Buffalo New York. They have been tasked to handle foreign school student issues.

July 20th, 2011
by Ron Kness
My daughter (hopefully) will be attending a private university in Massachusetts. Currently the MA reimbursement is $340 per credit hour, which comes to approximately $10,200 for a full time student. Am I correct that after the law changes that will jump to $17,500? Or am I missing something? – Michelle

Under the GI Bill 2.0 change, the cap for foreign and private schools and out-state tuition will be $17,500 per year. If the tuition is less, the VA will pay less as they pay actual charges up to the cap, but not $17,500 across the board.

If the charges at your daughter’s potential school would have been higher than the new cap of $17,500, and she is at the 100% Post 9/11 GI Bill level, then she could also use the Yellow Ribbon program to help pay the difference between what the Post 9/11 GI Bill would pay and what her school charges. Under the agreement and  if her school is a Yellow Ribbon school, her school could pay up to half of the difference and the VA would pay an equal amount.

If her school is not a Yellow Ribbon school, then she (or you) would be responsible to pay the difference, but it looks like all of her tuition should be covered under the new cap. Actually $10,200 is a good rate for a private school in the East.

February 7th, 2011
by Jeffery Anderson
I’m getting ready to move and looked at the list for Max Credit Hour and Max Total Term for each state.  I’m currently in TN and see that the numbers are $270 and $13,426 and for PA they are $934 and $6,110.  Does that mean it’s better to stay in TN because I’ll get more money out of my GI Bill?  I’m confused on how it works!  Siani

Hi Siani, It can be confusing and the VA has just made it much easier to understand.  Starting on 1 August of this year you can ignore all of those state tuition and fee rates as they will no longer be used.  Effective that date the Post 9/11 GI Bill will cover all tuition and fees for eligible veterans to attend an approved public school as an in-state student for undergraduate and graduate programs for as long as their benefits last.

That means that if you are a resident of Tennessee, you can attend an approved public school and the Post 9/11 GI Bill should cover all of your tuition and fees as long as you have benefits.  If you move to Pennsylvania or any other state, you are more than likely going to have to establish residency before you can attend a school in the state at an in-state tuition rate.  Each state handles qualifying for for residency differently, but until you are paying in-state tuition rates you may have to cover the difference between what the Post 9/11 GI Bill provides and what the school is charging you.

One way to get some additional assistance would be to choose a Yellow Ribbon Program school.  If you are accepted into the school’s version of the program, they may contribute an amount toward the part of your tuition not covered by the Post 9/11 GI Bill and the VA will match their contribution.

January 10th, 2011
by Ron Kness
My name is Julian. I am currently in the Army and will be getting out in May 2012. I plan on enrolling in either the University of Texas or the University of Hawaii and pursue a commission through AFROTC. I wanted to know if I could use my GI Bill benefits along with an AFROTC scholarship. I also wanted to know if I can use my GI Bill rate as a Texas resident at schools outside of Texas; like Hawaii. — Julian

Yes you can use your GI Bill along with an Air Force ROTC scholarship Julian. Just be aware that depending on how much scholarship money your get, you may incur a service obligation once you are commissioned. As far as the second part of your question, I’m not sure I fully understand it, but here goes.

If you are referring to the Hazelwood Act, then no, you can’t use that outside of Texas and the school you choose can’t be a private school either, even if it is in Texas. You referenced the University of Texas, so that would qualify as an authorized school under the Hazelwood Act, but you could not use the Act to go to school in Hawaii.

If you are talking about the Post 9/11 GI Bill in-state maximum, the amount of tuition the VA will pay is based on the zip code of your school, so no you couldn’t use the in-state maximums for Texas ($1,549/$12,130.00 – tuition per credit/fees respectively) to go to school in Hawaii ($316/$1,325.70). Also, be aware that if you go to school in Hawaii, you may have to pay out-state tuition which would most likely make your tuition per credit higher than what the VA will pay. If you are at the 100% Post 9/11 GI Bill level, then you might want to look for a Yellow Ribbon school in Hawaii to help offset the additional tuition cost.

December 31st, 2010
by Jeffery Anderson
I live in Cincinnati, Oh and I’m looking at two different schools.  The first is the University of Cincinnati, the other is Northern Kentucky University.  If I go to NKU, will my benefits be the same as Ohio’s or will they fall under Kentucky’s standards.  Or would they transfer at all?  Any answers would be great!  Thank you, Brendon

Hi Brendon, You can go to school in any state you desire as long as the school and program are approved for GI Bill use.  As things stand now you would receive a maximum per credit hour of $508.25 to attend school in Ohio using the Post 9/11 GI Bill and $456.30 in Kentucky.  I say as it stands now because new legislation just passed that may cause the rates to change in August 2011.

If you go to school in Kentucky while you are considered a resident of Ohio, you are probably going to have to pay out of state tuition rates and there’s a good change you may have to cover some of your tuition costs out of of pocket.  The amount the Post 9/11 GI Bill provides in each state rarely covers the entire amount schools charge for out of state tuition.

The good news is that both schools are Yellow Ribbon Program participating schools.  If you get accepted into their program, the school and the VA will cover a portion of your excess tuition that isn’t covered by the GI Bill.  Unfortunately the school in Kentucky only accepts 6 undergraduates into the program each year so the odds may not be the greatest, but you still have a chance.  The University of Cincinnati accepts 25 undergraduates into their Yellow Ribbon Program each year.