Hi Jordan, I looked up Full Sail University on the VA’s Weams list of approved institutions of higher learning, and they are not only approved, but they have a fairly large staff there that handles VA issues. It sounds to me like the school is approved for both the Montgomery GI Bill and the Post 9/11 GI Bill, and I would imagine that if they have some sort of special class structure that is different than most schools, they have already addressed the issue with the VA.
They may have the same sort of setup that many graduate schools have with the VA concerning use of the Post 9/11 GI Bill. The VA recognizes that some graduate school programs may only be a few credit hours, but are intense enough that they require a student to devote much more of their time to the course than would normally be the case for a three credit hour course. Because of this the VA lets graduate schools determine what a full time student’s class load is. I would think that Full Sail University has the same sort of arrangement with the VA. I suggest you contact them, and talk to someone in the VA Certifying Official department.
Full Sail University is also participating in the Yellow Ribbon Program, so if you are using the Post 9/11 GI Bill, you may want to apply for the Yellow Ribbon Program at the school to assist with your tuition costs
Sherry, I don’t have enough information from your question to give you a definite answer, but I’ll give it a try.
You say you received your father’s G.I. Bill in 2005. The only Federal G.I. Bill having a transfer option to dependent children is the Post 9/11 G.I. Bill which started four years after your father passed away.
If you father passed away while on active duty, or as a result from a disability he received while on active duty, then you may be talking about the Survivors’ and Dependents’ Education Assistance Program (DEA), but that is different from a G.I. Bill, but it is the only program I can think of that would give you any type of Federal education benefits for the time-frame you are referring to.
The other puzzling part of your question is your reference to transferring your father’s G.I. Bill benefit from Alabama to the state where you live. Federal G.I. Bill benefits don’t have a State component in the context you are referring to in your question. That leads me to believe that maybe you are talking about a State G.I. Bill benefit and not a Federal one.
Alabama does have a state veterans’ education program called the G.I. Dependent’s Scholarship Program. I’m inclined to believe this is the program you are referring to. Because this is a State of Alabama program, the benefit has to be used at an Alabama school and it is not transferable to another state. Sherry, I hope I hit the mark with one of my answers.
What is considered full-time Timothy, varies among colleges. Generally speaking though, 12 credits is considered full-time, and that can be four 3-credit classes or three 4-credit classes or any other combination totaling up to 12 credits per term. Just keep in mind, to get the Post 9/11 G.I. Bill housing allowance and book stipend, you have to be at least a half-time student (6 credits).
As far as when you have to finish college, you have 15 years, from your last date of discharge, to use your Post 9/11 G.I. Bill benefits. After that, your benefit expires.
You have 36 months (or three years) worth of benefit. This gives you enough time for you to get a four-year degree, if you go to school full-time (9-months per year). This is a great G.I. Bill, so use your education benefit wisely.
Yes, Mary, there are lots of education assistance your children can start applying for that doesn’t include the G.I. Bill.
One of the most common is the Stafford Loan. It can come from either one of two programs – the Federal Family Education Loan (FFEL) Program or the William D. Ford Federal Direct Loan (Direct Loan).
Another source is the Pell grant. It is generally the foundation to which other federal and non-federal aid may be added to. The maximum amount for undergraduate students is $5,350 (at this time).
The Academic Competitiveness Grant (ACG) is for first-year students graduating from high school after January 1, 2006. New students can receive $750 for the first-year and $1300 for the second year. Students can receive the ACG in addition to the Pell as long as the combined amount of the two loans does not exceed college costs.
The Teacher Education Assistance for College and Higher Education (TEACH) grant started in 2007 and has a maximum amount of $4,000 per year. Students receiving a TEACH grant agree to teach children of low income families after graduating from college.
Don’t overlook service organizations such as the American Legion and Veterans of Foreign Wars. Most service organizations have scholarships they award annually.
Colleges themselves are another good source of scholarship money. Many have their own educational benefit programs and are generally awarded based on need and funds available. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Finally, once old enough, your children could join the military and get their own Post 9/11 G.I. Bill or Montgomery G.I. Bill and have their education paid for by the VA. They could also use Tuition Assistance and take classes while on active duty and save their G.I. Bill to use once they are discharged.
Just so all of us are on the same sheet of music Greg, the housing allowance many Post 9/11 G.I. Bill users get is different from the BAH you get on active duty. The housing allowance is paid based on the E-5-with-dependents rate for the zip code of the school.
To answer your first question, Greg, no your wife will not get paid the housing allowance while you are still serving. Once you are discharged, then she will be eligible to start getting the housing allowance when she uses her transferred benefits. Once you are out, she will also qualify for the $1,000 per year book stipend.
As far as other assistance, she should look at applying for the various scholarships that are available to military spouses. Some of the more popular ones are:
She can search the Internet for more information on any of these scholarships and more.
Yes, Nicholas, it is confusing. The VA recently changed their website and I’m not sure they have it correct. Before their change, no time for training counted toward Post 9/11 G.I. Bill eligibility. Now I see at the 80% and above tier levels, they are including training time, but I’m not sure one at the 80% level is correct.
In the verbiage they say “Subtract days served on active duty for entry level and skill training 1from total number of days, if you served less than 910 days”. But then in the calculator, they show 730-909 days including training time which contradicts their statement of deducting the training time if you served less than 910 days.
Knowing the VA’s past history, my advice is to extend for at least 167 days to cover your initial training time so that you end up with at least 1,095 days of “good” time. I would not be surprised to see the VA change that 80% tier level to exclude training time.
Like you say, it would be a shame to miss out on some benefits due to a technical error on their website. Play it safe and extend to cover your training time, so you can qualify for your full Post 9/11 G.I. Bill benefits.
Your husband Jackie does not have any benefits left from his service in the Navy. The delimiting date for the Montgomery G.I. Bill- Active Duty is 10 years, so his benefits expired in the year 2000.
However, now that he is in the Air Force Reserve he should be eligible for the Montgomery G.I. Bill – Selected Reserves (MGIB-SR). He has 10 years to use this G.I. Bill as long as he remains a member in good standing. Once discharged, he loses his MGIB-SR benefits. Your husband’s 5-month school won’t account as eligible time for the new Post 9/11 G.I. Bill as it was training time.
If your husband plans on taking an OJT/Apprenticeship program, he will want to stick with the MGIB-SR as the Post 9/11 G.I. Bill does not cover these programs.
As a National Guard soldier Lindsey, you are authorized the Montgomery G.I. Bill – Selected Reserves, once you get back from AIT, provided you don’t decline it and you authorize the 12-month deduction from your pay. As far as the kicker, you get that at the time you enlist, if you enlist into certain critical MOSs or in special designated units.
Obviously you did not enlist into either; otherwise you would have been offered an appropriate kicker. Once you are eligible for re-enlistment, ask about a re-enlistment kicker., This will mean going through another MOS training school and transferring to a different unit, but it will be a means to get a kicker and more money for school.
With only your IADT time, no you do not meet the eligibility requirements to qualify for the Post 9/11 G.I. Bill. With contingency operation mobilizations in the future, you could acquire enough active duty time to qualify for the new G.I. Bill.
Hi Paul, The only limitations you have when using your Post 9/11 GI Bill are the number of months of benefits available, which with full benefits would be 36 months, and that you must take the courses at an approved institution of higher learning which can award at least an associate’s degree. If you already have an undergraduate degree, you can use the 36 months of benefits to continue your education and earn a master’s degree and a PhD.
Keep in mind that the Post 9/11 GI Bill pays a maximum tuition based on the highest undergraduate tuition for an in-state student at a state supported school. There is also usually a maximum amount the program provides each semester in each state. I believe this is probably based on the average number of credit hours taken each semester by students at the school the tuition rate is based on. Graduate credit hours usually cost a little more than undergraduate credit hours, so if you are pursuing a master’s degree, and taking additional electives, you may find yourself having to fund some of your tuition costs.
One way to offset this is to attend a school that is participating in the Yellow Ribbon Program. Yellow Ribbon Program schools agree to fund a portion of the tuition costs not covered by the Post 9/11 GI Bill, and the VA matches the school’s contribution. Each school administers their own Yellow Ribbon Program, so you will have to be accepted into the program at whichever school you choose.
Hi Jim, If you already earned the Montgomery GI Bill or the Post 9/11 GI Bill while serving as an enlisted service member, then that stays with you as an officer, and you can use it either while on active duty, or after you leave the military.
There are enlisted to officer programs that pay for an enlisted service member to attend college, and after they earn a degree, and complete OCS, they receive a commission as an officer. Those programs can affect a service member’s GI Bill benefits. However, if I am understanding your situation correctly, you had a college degree prior to enlisting, or earned one while an enlisted service member, and you were selected for OCS. If that is the case, then you should continue to have your GI Bill benefits to use.
Don’t forget that as an officer, you can still use Tuition Assistance to continue your education.