Mick, technically your Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB-AD) expired 10 years from your last date of discharge which would have been on January 6, 2011, but if you get into the Reserves, your clock should reset as your delimitation date is based on your last discharge date which if you get back into the military is yet to be determined.
As far as getting the Reserve Montgomery GI Bill – Selected Reserves (MGIB-SR), yes you will, but it doesn’t pay much – $345 per month and you have to pay your own tuition, fees, books and other education-related expenses. One other GI Bill I wanted to make you aware of is the new Post 9/11 GI Bill.
As a Reservist, if you deploy on a Title 10 order in support of a contingency operation for at least 91 days or more, you could get some eligibility under that GI Bill also. Just know that if you are eligible for two or more GI Bills, your total combined months of benefits is limited to 48 months. Being you got your bachelor’s degree under the MGIB-AD, you most likely only have around 12 months of benefits left to use under the MGIB-SR or Post 9/11 GI Bill should you qualify for both.
O.K. Kaeo, let’s walk through your questions one at a time. The Post 9/11 GI Bill should pay for your real estate course as it pays for courses that prepare you to take a certification or license test. And it would most likely also reimburse you up to $2,000 for the cost of the test to get your real estate license.
Since the implementation of the GI Bill 2.0, the Post 9/11 GI Bill also pays for vocational-type courses. The key is to ensure Universal Technical Institute is a VA-approved school before you start. It sounds like it is a private school being you mentioned you would get only $17,500 for the one-year course. If it was a public school, your tuition and fees would be paid in full at the resident rate.
Also, you would get the monthly housing allowance and $83 per month in a book stipend. The housing allowance averages around $1,200 per month.
There could be one hitch though and you will want to get these courses approved by the VA first. The GI Bill was developed to train veterans for a career. Because being an auto mechanic and real estate salesman are not related, the VA may hesitate to fund both of them; ask first to be sure.
You most likely have 36 months of Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits, so yes, you could use what is left to work on your degree until you run out, but I ask that you consider your career options carefully. You might want to re-look at getting your real estate license, automotive certification and degree. By trying to get all three, it most likely would not look like you have a solid career plan to the VA.
It seems odd to me Rene that you were told you couldn’t receive the GI Bill after you got out. Back in 1990, you would have had the Montgomery GI Bill which has a 10-year delimitation date starting on the day of your discharge.
Depending on when you got out of the AGR program, you may qualify for the Post 9/11 GI Bill. Although that GI Bill did not come into existence until August 1, 2009, eligibility goes back to September 10, 2001. Up until recently, the only way a Guardsman or Reservists could get the New GI Bill was to deploy for at least 91 days on a Title Order in support of a contingency operation, such as Iraq or Afghanistan. So if you deployed, you may also have some eligibility there also.
You mentioned that you were AGR. The Post 9/11 GI Bill changed on October 1, 2011 when the GI Bill 2.0 went into effect, which essentially used your AGR time back to September 10, 2001 as eligible time for the Post 9/11 GI Bill. So depending on when you were in the AGR program and for how long, plus if you had any deployments or not, you could have the Post 9/11 GI Bill.
But I caution you that while you may have Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits you can use, you will not be able to transfer it them to your children because you are no longer serving. Also, if you do qualify for both GI Bills, you will be limited to a total of 48 months of benefits. Finally, you will have to check with your Teacher’s Retirement system to see if any of your service time qualifies under their system.
Well, if it is any comfort Cindy, thousands of veterans were mislead as far as the Post 9/11 GI Bill. From before its fielding, to even a considerable amount of time after the Post 9/1 GI Bill came into existence, there were numerous untrue rumors and generally a lack of creditable information on what could and could not be done with the New GI Bill. We are still fighting untruths even today, almost three years later. My point is I don’t think he would have known much more a few weeks after August 1, 2009 than he did when he retired before that date. Good information was just not there at the time.
With your husband’s active duty time and 36 months of activations as a reservist, then yes, he is eligible for 36 months of Post 9/11 GI Bill education benefits. To enroll as a GI Bill student, he will need a Certificate of Eligibility. He can get that by submitting VA Form 22-1990 from the eBenefits website.
However, because he’s retired, regardless if it was before or after August 1, 2009, he is not eligible to make a transfer of benefits to his dependent children. The way Congress wrote the Post 9/11 GI Bill rules, he would have to be serving “on or after August 1, 2009” in order to make a transfer request.
I have started a petition that if approved would provide for a one-time transfer of benefits opportunity. You can read it and then decide if you and your husband would like to support it or not.
Let me start with addressing the transfer of your husband’s GI Bill benefit to you Krystal. Regardless if he has the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) or the Post 9/11 GI Bill, he can’t transfer benefits to you, but each for different reasons. The MGIB does not have, and never had, a transfer-of-benefits option. With the Post 9/11 GI Bill, your husband would have to still be serving in order to make a transfer request.
He served for seven years, meeting the service requirement of at least six years, but he would also need to have at least four years left on his enlistment at the time of the transfer request. The way Congress wrote the Post 9/11 GI Bill rules, the servicemember has to be serving “on or after August 1, 2009,” along with meeting the current and future service requirements, to get a transfer request approved.
As far as the Hazelwood Act, you are correct in saying you are not eligible for this benefit. And be glad you are not. If you were eligible, it would mean your husband was either killed in action or totally disabled as a result from service-connected injuries or illness.
Other options? Yes, you do have some. First, fill out the FAFSA (Free Application for Federal Student Aid) to see how much you qualify for as far as educational benefits. Then pursue loans, scholarships and grants. The latter two don’t have to be paid back, so I would focus my efforts on them. There is money out there, you just have to dig to find it.
Hi Ben. I’ll answer your questions in the order you asked them. First, the only way National Guardsmen can get the Post 9/11 GI Bill is to serve on a Title 10 order in support of a contingency operation, such as Afghanistan for at least 91 days. A typical one-year deployment gets them 36 months of benefits at 60% coverage. It takes three years of deployments to get to the 100% level.
As far as enlistment options, Guardsmen get the Montgomery GI Bill – Selected Reserves (MGIB-SR), which is very different from the Montgomery GI Bill – Active Duty (MGIB-AD). They can also get Student Loan Repayment and kickers by enlisting into either a critical MOS or a critical unit. You mentioned REAP, but that is just the forerunner to the Post 9/11 GI Bill that Guardsmen received for deploying before the Post 9/11 GI Bill came into existence on August 1, 2009.
Guardsmen automatically get the MGIB-SR after one-year of service, so they really don’t have to sign up for anything. SLRP either has to be signed up for at the time of exlistment or if offered during re-enlistment. So as you can see, there really isn’t a GI Bill to choose – for Guardsmen there only is one to choose from unless they deploy or came in and had prior service.
You can’t get the national average Post 9/11 GI Bill housing allowance (not BAH as the two are entirely different) rate by taking just online classes. The GI Bill 2.0 established a full-time online-only housing allowance rate of $673.50, which is about half of the national on campus or online/on campus mix rate. If you are less-than-a-full-time online-only student, the amount you would get would be prorated down to a lesser amount.
However, this is more than online students got before the change – before, they received nothing in housing allowance. I never really understood why, as online-only students have almost as many living expenses as campus-based students. They still have to have a place to live and food to eat.
However, there is a work-around where you can go to school as a full-time student and still get the full housing allowance amount – take at least one class (that pertains to your degree plan) per semester on a campus with the rest online. The amount of housing authorized for your on campus school may or may not be at the national average of $1,200. Some places are less than average while the East and West coasts are about double that amount. So without knowing where you are going to school and the number of credits you are taking, I can’t tell you what your rate should be.
The key to making this work is the class you take on campus each semester has to pertain to your degree plan. If not, the VA will not pay for your class and it will not count toward the number of credits that determines your housing allowance.
Actually Tracey, I can’t tell you how much you should be getting unless you tell me which school you are going to or its zip code, and the number of credits you are taking, as these two items determine your Post 9/11 GI Bill housing allowance. I can tell you the U.S. housing allowance average is $1,200, but that amount can double if you attend a school on either the East or West Coast. I can also tell you your book stipend will be calculated at 60% of $41.67 per credit (up to your $600 annual limit – 60% of the $1,000 yearly cap).
Under the Post 9/11 GI Bill, the VA pays your tuition (at the resident rate) in full ( or 60% in your case) if you attend a public school. If you decide to attend a private school, then they will pay up to 60% of the $17,500 per year maximum.
The New GI Bill underwent some changes between August 1st and October 1, 2011, so that could account for some of the variance in the amount you receive. For example, before the change, you would have received the full housing allowance as long as you were taking at least 51% of the credits your school considered to be full-time. After the change, the amount you receive for attending the same school is directly tied to the number of credits you take. So if your credit load varies by semester, so will your housing allowance amount.
You can look up for yourself how much you should be receiving. Just go to the BAH Calculator and enter in your school zip code. Select E-5 from the Pay Grade Drop-down Menu and click on Submit. You would get 60% of the amount listed with dependents.
Actually Jerry, your son can mix and match how he uses his transferred Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits and merit scholarships, but generally to maximize his GI Bill benefits, he will want to avoid using both the GI Bill and scholarships in the same semester. He could use most of his GI Bill benefits all at once over the year of school, or use it one semester at a time spread out over time. The thing to keep in mind is your son’s transferred benefits are only good up to age 26. Any unused benefits left after that age are lost, unless you revoke them back before he hits age 26.
As you may or may not know, the VA pays tuition up to $17,500 per year if your son attends a private school or 100% of resident tuition if your son goes to a public school in his home state.
When your son decides to use his Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits, choosing a private school that has the Yellow Ribbon Program is a good move. With a $30,000 tuition and the VA paying up to $17,500 per year, his school could pay up to 50% of the $12,500 difference with the VA paying an equal amount. This would potentially leave nothing left for your son to pay. He will have to check with his school to see what percentage they are actually paying as listed in their Yellow Ribbon agreement with the VA.
If he does choose a private school not enrolled in the Yellow Ribbon program, then he could use both his scholarship and his GI Bill, but the VA would then only pay the $15,000 difference between his tuition and merit scholarship, instead of the $17,500.