Posts Tagged ‘college credit’

January 10th, 2012
by Ron Kness
I’m kind of freaking out and have a question on my post 9/11 GIBILL. I have been using my GIBILL benefits since August of 2010 and I registered for my classes for winter 2012 term. My school VA certifying official expressed that of the four classes that I registered for she could only certify me for enrollment into one of them since the other three were not a degree requirement. Now why would it matter if I am taking other electives to gather as many credit hours as possible, since some classes were either not available for the winter term, they were full, or since I work the times of the classes didn’t fit my plan of action since I cannot attend in the mornings and I take classes at night and online. I am just wondering if I am going to have to transfer. I hope you guys can clear this up because I have never had a problem registering until this term and time is ticking and I need some answers. — Eric

Eric, the VA will not pay for classes that are not part of your degree plan period, so your VA Certifying Official is correct in what s/he is telling you. The purpose of the GI Bill is to train you for a career and because those non-essential classes are not required to get your degree, the VA will not pay for them, but that is probably a good thing as it helps you manage your 36 months of eligibility better. Most likely those elective would not help you in your career or they would have been included in your degree plan.

Otherwise, you would expend them on non-essential classes and end up having to pay for the last few classes you need to get your degree anyway. So it is a case that if you really want to take those non-essential classes, then you will have to pay for them, but are they really worth that, just to get the credits?

With only 36 months of Post 9/11 GI Bill eligibility, you have enough to get a four-year degree, if you manage them correctly. The VA is just helping you do that not paying for classes you don’t need.

If the class schedule at your present school doesn’t fit into your work schedule, then yes indeed, you may have to look at changing schools, or look at taking more classes online. It might take longer to get your degree, but if your job is flexible enough that you can work more hours during semesters when you have a lighter credit load, then you would be able to earn more money during those semesters. Just be sure to take enough credits to still receive your housing allowance.

October 18th, 2010
by Ron Kness
I am on a culinary program in my college university. My culinary arts advisor told me that there are other electives or classes besides culinary arts classes that can be accepted and be credited for in the culinary arts program (i.e. accounting and business classes). I am interested in taking these electives. I’m asking this because I tried to take a class before that isn’t in the culinary arts program and was no way related to it and VA wouldn’t pay for it or add the credits towards my monthly allowance. Is the VA going pay the tuition for these elective classes if I decided to take them? And also, will the credits from the elective classes add up to the total credits I’m taking to get my monthly allowance? – Gian

Gian, the VA will only pay for the minimum required classes to complete your stated educational objective. You will need to discuss these additional classes with your school certifying official to see if any of these classes can be added to your approved plan.  If they can be added, then the VA would pay for them and they would count toward your credit hours for your Post 9/11 GI Bill monthly housing allowance.

So in the end, this is a school issue and not a VA issue. The VA has no control over what goes into your education objective – it is the school that decides that. If you have some general electives left to use, you might be able to squeeze some of these classes in under your electives. If not, you might have to pay for these classes yourself. I do agree they are important classes, especially if you plan to open your own culinary arts business.

Colleges and universities are seeing an enormous jump in enrollment from service members. With this massive serge of Active Duty and Veterans going back to school, it is important to see which institution will give you the most for your money. One factor in your decision could be acceptance of military experience for college credit.

Claiming credit for your military experience can save you time and money however, not all of your experience will transfer. Each of the service branches have developed methods for documenting military training that the American Council on Education (ACE) has evaluated for college credit. If your MOS is comparable to the degree field you are seeking, the likelihood that you will have more credits is greater than if your field of study was completely different.

There are also national testing programs that institutions will accept for college credit such as Defense Activity for Non-traditional Education Support (DANTES), College Level Examination Program (CLEP) or part of the Service members Opportunity Colleges (SOC). If you want more information on these programs and who accepts them, here are the links provided below:

DANTES home page

CLEP home page

SOC home page

I have also provided the links for military transcripts of all branches in one of my earlier blogs. Do your own research and see what school will be the most value for your money. In times like these, it’s good to not spend money when you don’t have to.

Semper Fi

Richard Lingle

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