Expert Answers to Your GI Bill Benefits Questions Topic: Dependents' and Survivors' Education Assistance Program

December 3rd, 2010
by GIBillExpert
I am a spouse of a vet who receives full benefits from the VA. I would like to use the GI Bill to go to an accredited cosmetology school and I am unable to find and literature on this. I would appreciate it if I could get a link or anything. Thank you very much. — Jamie C.

The GI Bill, as such, won’t be able to help you to get educational benefits due to your spouse’s service. The GI Bill cannot be transferred to a dependent after the servicemember leaves the military, so it is too late to make such a transfer.

You may be eligible for another program, however. If your spouse is a veteran who is permanently and totally disabled due to a service-related condition, you may be eligible to apply for the Survivors’ and Dependents’ Educational Assistance Program (DEA). This provides educational assistance to spouses and children of servicemembers and veterans who have died or been permanently and totally disabled due to service-related conditions.

November 17th, 2010
by GIBillExpert
What is the monthly stipend for Chapter 35 for a retired E-7 in Louisiana? — Carolyn L.

Chapter 35 covers the Survivors’ and Dependents’ Educational Assistance Program (DEA), which provides educational benefits to the surviving spouse or child of a veteran who died or became totally and permanently disabled due to service-connected conditions. The DEA program pays a set monthly allowance that is based on the type of educational program you are in, and your course load (whether you are full-time or part-time). The pay has nothing to do with the location of the student or the pay grade of the veteran. A full-time college student currently receives $936.00 per month.

November 15th, 2010
by GIBillExpert
My father served in Vietnam. I live in Indiana and I’m 37 and am returning to finish my bachelor degree in applied science. I have 6 months left. I am wanting to be in the medical field. Am I too old to qualify for benefits? He is disabled but not at 100%. — Shannon B.

The bottom line is yes, you are too old to qualify for any benefits from the VA, such as the Survivors’ and Dependents’ Educational Assistance Program (DEA). Almost certainly, there are no benefits to be had in the first place, since this would require the veteran to be either totally and permanently disabled or dead. Most VA-administered educational benefits that can be transferred to a child, or that can be gained through being the child of a veteran, require the child to be no older than 25 years old to receive the benefits. The child loses any remaining benefits upon his or her 26th birthday.

November 4th, 2010
by Ron Kness
Is there a GI Bill for spouses? My husband is using Voc rehab and is told it is pulling from his GI Bill and I was wondering if there is a GI Bill or help from the military for myself to go to school. – Lisa

You have a couple of different options Lisa. You may be eligible for the Survivors’ and Dependents’ Education Assistance Program (DEA). To qualify, your husband must have a permanent and total (rated 100% by the VA) service-connected disability.

If you qualify, you could get up to 45 months of entitlement to go to school. Right now DEA recipients get $936 per month and you would have to pay your own tuition, fees, books and other education-related expenses.  Going to school 9 months per year, 45 months is more than enough month to get a four-year degree, if that is your goal. DEA also covers non-degree training programs, such as trade, technical, license and certification courses.

Your other option would be to enroll in the Military Spouse Career Advancement (MyCAA) Program. With this program you could get up to $2,000 per year (with a $4,000 cap) for up to three years to go to school for a two-year associate’s degree or take a program resulting in a certification or license.

November 1st, 2010
by GIBillExpert
Am I eligible for dependent benefits? I am a returning student at Cornerstone University, Grand Rapids, MI. My father was in Vietnam. I just want to know if I am eligible to receive school funding, and  if so how do I go about obtaining these benefits. Thank you. — Antionette G.

You probably aren’t eligible for any VA-administered educational benefits due to your father being a veteran. Even if he was at some point eligible for the GI Bill, it’s long expired, and couldn’t be transferred to you, anyway. There is a program that is specifically aimed at the spouses and children of veterans (the Survivors’ and Dependents’ Educational Assistance Program, or DEA). However, it requires the veteran to be deceased due to a service-related condition, or be or have been totally and permanently disabled due to a service-related condition.

You could check to see if your school has an ROTC program, which could provide you with a full scholarship in return for a few years of military service after completing your degree. Or, you could put off your schooling for a bit and enlist to earn your own GI Bill. Both options offer a lot of educational benefits.

October 27th, 2010
by Jeffery Anderson
Do I have to live with my mom and step dad in order to get benefits?  I have been living with my mom and step dad for 10 months after they got married in January 2010.  I recently filed a claim with a VA certification officer at my college and she said I was under Chapter 35 and I was supposed to get like $900 per month.  She also back-tracked me for the previous semester that I attended college because I did not claim or get benefits last semester because I didn’t know anything about VA/GI Bill etc, but I was going to college full time while my mom was remarried on Jan 7 2010, the school semester started Jan 20 2010 and ended June 8 2010 then it started again Aug 30, 2010 and ends Dec. 18 2010.  But if I go to live with my grandmother will I still get benefits?  Brandon

Hi Brandon, The Dependents and Survivors’ Education Assistance Program (DEA) is for the spouses and children or stepchildren of service members who are permanently and totally disabled due to their military service or who die from those injuries.  Where you live has no affect on whether you receive the benefits; the only thing that matters is that you have a parent or step-parent who meet the criteria and that you are between the ages of 18 and 26.

You can live at home, at an apartment or dorm, or with your grandmother and still use the benefits for approved programs as long as you still have the benefits and haven’t turned 26 yet.  In that aspect the DEA is similar to Post 9/11 GI Bill benefits that have been transferred to a dependent child.

You can get an extension of the benefits if you enter the military, but normally the DEA benefits can’t be extended past 31 years of age.

October 26th, 2010
by Ron Kness
This post is continued from the previous post:

  • 5. How many years are we covered for college?
  • 6. Does the GI Bill pay for on-campus housing?
  • 7. Are we still eligible for scholarships, grants, and student loans?
  • 8. Does the GI Bill pay for out-of-state tuition? If so, under what circumstances?
  • 9. What’s the difference between the Montgomery GI Bill and the Post 9/11 GI Bill? – Cardiellea

5. Each of you would get up to 45 months of benefits.

6. No, you have to pay all your own education expenses out of your monthly DEA payment.

7. Yes you are.

8. No. The DEA program pays a fixed monthly amount, so any expenses above and beyond that amount would have to come from other financial sources.

9. The basic differences between the two GI Bills in that the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) pays a student a fixed rate of $1,426 per month and the student has to pay all his/her own education expenses, such as tuition, fee, books, etc. Under the Post 9/11 GI Bill, the VA pays the student’s school directly for tuition and eligible fees up to the in-state maximums. The student gets a monthly housing allowance paid at the pay grade of E-5 with dependents based on the zip code of the school. Also, the student get paid $41.67 per credit up to the $1,000 annual limit which is enough for 24 semester credit hours per year.

The other big difference is what programs each GI Bill will pay. The Post 9/11 GI Bill is focused on degree-producing courses. If you plan to take a non-degree course such as a trade, technical or  a course resulting in a certification or license, the MGIB would be a better GI Bill to use.

October 25th, 2010
by Ron Kness
I have several questions:

  • What GI Bill would I get as a dependent if my father is a Retired Veteran of 22 years in the service who is disabled?
  • What educational benefits would I receive under those circumstances?
  • Will my sister and I get separate GI Bills?
  • Will my sister and I have to share the monthly allowances?

– Cardiellea

Cardiella, I split your question in two so I could keep my answer within the word-count limit. The rest of your questions are answered in the next post. I answered your questions using your same numbering system and in the order asked:

1. If the VA rated your father’s disability as permanent and total (100%), and you are under the age of 26, you may be eligible for Chapter 35 (Survivors’ and Dependents’ Education Assistance Program (DEA)). If your father is not rated at 100%, or you are older than 26, then you are most likely not eligible for the program.

2. If you and your sister qualify for DEA, each of you could get up to 45 months of entitlement, which are months of benefits.

3. If each of you qualifies, then each of you would get your own DEA program of benefits.

4. No, with each of you having your own program, you would each get a monthly payment of $936 for full-time student status. Out of that monthly amount, you have to pay your own tuition, fees and other education-related expenses.

September 14th, 2010
by GIBillExpert
Hello, I’m a 21 year old son of a medically discharged veteran. I’ve received chapter 35 at a university I attended in MN. I’m wondering whether I am able to continue receiving this benefit internationally. Soon I’ll be attending a university in England (University of Bedfordshire) and I’m not sure if I’d still be eligible? Thanks for your time. — Steven

Educational benefits under Chapter 35, title 38 of the US Code (Survivors’ and Dependents’ Educational Assistance Program) can be used to pay for education received at an overseas school. However, as with other VA educational benefits, the educational program must be authorized by the VA. To find out if your school is authorized, look it up on the VA web site’s Weams Institution Search page.

I don’t see the University of Bedfordshire listed in the system. However, that’s not the end of the story. An institution can become authorized by making a request through the National Association of State Approving Agencies. Just contact the school and see if you can arrange that.

September 14th, 2010
by Ron Kness
I recently was awarded VA disability of 100% total and permanent, I have two children in college full time this fall. How can I apply the DEA program toward their education as school starts 25 Aug. I received the letter 11 Aug with effective date of 10 July. Thank You. – Tom

Tom, you are not going to be able to apply and get anything for the semester just starting. It takes 8 to 10 weeks for the VA to process Chapter 35 applications, but next semester is definitely doable, if they apply now.

Have each of your kids fill go out to the VONAPP Website and out VA Form 22-5490. Once their DEA applications are approved, each will get back a Certificate of Eligibility that they will need when registering for their next semester.

Once their Certificates of Eligibility matches up with their school’s Certificate of Enrollment, that will trigger the start of the payment process. Right now, each should get paid a monthly benefit of $936 each. Each child in the DEA program will get 45 months of school benefits that they will have to use up by their 26th birthday. Whatever is left unused at that point is lost.